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Nilay Patel

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And Ring, in particular, has always been proud of its cooperation with law enforcement, which has raised big questions about civil rights.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Especially because Ring had proudly announced a partnership with a company called Flock Safety, whose systems have been accessed by ICE.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

There's some complication to that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

We'll come back to it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Anyway, the backlash to that ring ad was swift, intense, and effective.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

The data company Peak Metrics says conversation about the ad on social media platforms like X actually hit a high two days after the Super Bowl.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And the vibes, as they measured them, were strikingly negative.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I mean, you know it's bad when Matt Nelson, who runs We Rate Dogs, is posting things like this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Senator Ed Markey called the ad dystopian and said it was proof that Amazon, which owns Ring, needed to cease all facial recognition technology on Ring doorbells.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

He said, quote, "'This definitely isn't about dogs.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

It's about mass surveillance.'"

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And then on Thursday, February 12th, just four days after the Super Bowl, Ring announced that it was canceling its partnership with Flock in a statement first reported by The Verge's Jen Toohey.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

That statement is itself a lot.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Ring says, quote, following a comprehensive review, we determined the planned Flock safety integration would require significantly more time and resources than anticipated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

As a result, we have made the joint decision to cancel the planned integration.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

The integration never launched, so no Ring customer videos were ever sent to Flock Safety.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Ring, in this statement, also goes on to say that Ring cameras were used by police in identifying a school shooter at Brown University in December 2025.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

That's an odd non sequitur in a press release about canceling a controversial partnership.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

that really explains a lot about Ring and how the company sees itself.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

As it happens, Ring's founder, Jamie Siminoff, was just on Decoder a few months ago, talking about how and why he founded the company and in detail about why he sees Ring's mission as eliminating crime, not selling cameras or doorbells or floodlights or anything else Ring makes, but getting rid of crime.