Nilay Patel

And we actually talked about Dog Search Party and how people might feel about that kind of surveillance and how Ring works with the cops quite a bit.

In fact, Jamie briefly left Ring in 2023

And the company slowed down its work with law enforcement.

But ever since he's come back, the emphasis on crime and the work with police has only intensified.

I asked him about it.

Amazon said, we're going to stop working with police.

You came back.

Boy, Ring is going to work with police again, right?

You have a partnership with Axon, which makes the taser that allows law enforcement to get access to Ring footage.

Did that feel like a two-way door?

Like you just made the wrong decision in your absence and you came back and said, we're going to do this again?

Jamie actually talked a lot about searching for dogs in this context, because one of the reasons he was so excited to come back to Ring was to use AI to search through the massive amounts of video generated by Ring cameras.

In fact, he told me that Ring could not have built Dog Search five years ago, because AI systems to do it weren't available.

Jimmy is nothing if not direct about this, which I appreciate.

The man really thinks you can use AI in cameras to reduce or even eliminate crime.

But I had a lot of questions about this.

Mechanically walk people through what you mean.

you put enough ring products in a neighborhood and then AI does what to them that helps you get closer to the mission of zero crime?

Can I just ask you a question about that neighborhood specifically?

Do you ever stop and consider that that neighborhood might suck?