Nilay Patel

Right, just like the idea that every house on my street would have all-knowing private security guards, and I would have an HOA, and that HOA would have a private security force.

You can easily paint that to dystopia, right?

Like everyone's so afraid.

that we have private cops in every corner and I'm paying HOA fees, which is just a nightmare of its own.

I would assume you live in a safe neighborhood.

I hope so, yeah.

The model is everybody is so afraid that they have private cops is-

I just wanted to challenge the premise that like, no, I think it's a, it's a model is there's cops everywhere, right?

Like that level.

There's a lot of intelligence in your neighborhood.

Maybe it's private security.

Maybe it's not.

What does the AI do?

Does it just make the cameras smarter?

It lets you do more intelligent assessment of what the cameras are seeing?

As you can see, I really pressed Jamie on this.

Because I still don't think it's entirely clear how Ring accomplishes the elimination of crime through AI alone.

And all that is why people don't trust Ring when it says it won't use systems that can find a dog to do things that would otherwise violate our rights.

After all, if your goal is to use AI to stop crime and you've built a system that uses AI to find dogs, well, it's pretty obvious what you're going to do next, right?

Do you think when you talk about zero out crime in a neighborhood, the idea that everyone in a neighborhood has one of those illuminated ring signs in their front yard, is that enough?