Nilay Patel

That's a part of it.

Is that just enough of a deterrent?

Like the bad guys will know, like my face is going to get captured on video and that will be analyzed by an AI and something will happen.

Do you have to do more outbound deterrents?

I think that's a, I think that's a, that's a part of it.

So when you think about, okay, we can bring it down – we can bring crime down a neighborhood to close to zero in a neighborhood.

What are the sort of ratcheting steps, right?

Is it everyone just gets the ring camera and your platform does all the work?

Is it someone gets caught and they tell all their friends in jail that they got caught?

Don't go to – like what are the steps, right?

And you think the AI will just sort of accelerate the process of we're working together?

We'll be right back.

This is where we get to Flock Safety, which Ring announced a partnership with last October.

Flock primarily makes cameras and systems to search video for the cops.

You've probably seen Flock's devices where you live.

They're those little solar-powered cameras and tracking devices affixed to streetlights or placed in the center of parking lots.

They vacuum up huge amounts of data that the company claims is anonymized before it's made available to partners, which in most cases is local law enforcement.

However, according to in-depth reporting from the excellent 404 Media, Block's data has often found its way to ICE, the FBI, the Secret Service, and other law enforcement agencies without the use of a warrant,

because that data is willingly provided by local police.

Last month, under intense scrutiny about what working with Flock would mean, Ring said its Flock partnership was not yet live, and that, quote, Ring has no partnership with ICE, does not give ICE videos feeds or backend access, and does not share video with them.