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Nilay Patel

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Welcome back. I'm talking with Amazon's Panos Panay. Right before the break, he was talking about hanging out with his son and how the Alexa devices in his house kept the conversation going.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Welcome back. I'm talking with Amazon's Panos Panay. Right before the break, he was talking about hanging out with his son and how the Alexa devices in his house kept the conversation going.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Welcome back. I'm talking with Amazon's Panos Panay. Right before the break, he was talking about hanging out with his son and how the Alexa devices in his house kept the conversation going.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Instead of picking up his phone to get the answer to a question and getting sucked into his notifications, which was pretty relatable, his son asked Alexa for information, Alexa provided it, and the conversation between the three of them kept going instead of getting derailed by the phone. So this was the promise of original Alexa, right? There are celebrity ads, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Instead of picking up his phone to get the answer to a question and getting sucked into his notifications, which was pretty relatable, his son asked Alexa for information, Alexa provided it, and the conversation between the three of them kept going instead of getting derailed by the phone. So this was the promise of original Alexa, right? There are celebrity ads, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Instead of picking up his phone to get the answer to a question and getting sucked into his notifications, which was pretty relatable, his son asked Alexa for information, Alexa provided it, and the conversation between the three of them kept going instead of getting derailed by the phone. So this was the promise of original Alexa, right? There are celebrity ads, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

During the Super Bowl, people are just like hanging out with their Alexas.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

During the Super Bowl, people are just like hanging out with their Alexas.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

During the Super Bowl, people are just like hanging out with their Alexas.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

But it couldn't do it. Right? A decade later, we have trained a generation of consumers to believe that these products are limited and that we should use them to play music and set timers. How are you going to teach everybody that it can do it? Actually, more important question. Can it do it? It can do it. It can do it. It can do it. I think we're resetting the next 10 years right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

But it couldn't do it. Right? A decade later, we have trained a generation of consumers to believe that these products are limited and that we should use them to play music and set timers. How are you going to teach everybody that it can do it? Actually, more important question. Can it do it? It can do it. It can do it. It can do it. I think we're resetting the next 10 years right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

But it couldn't do it. Right? A decade later, we have trained a generation of consumers to believe that these products are limited and that we should use them to play music and set timers. How are you going to teach everybody that it can do it? Actually, more important question. Can it do it? It can do it. It can do it. It can do it. I think we're resetting the next 10 years right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Are LLMs durable enough as a technology to build all the things you want them to do? No. Not just the LLM. It's not just the LLM. I understand that it's not just the LLM, but it is the enabling technology that's making all this go.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Are LLMs durable enough as a technology to build all the things you want them to do? No. Not just the LLM. It's not just the LLM. I understand that it's not just the LLM, but it is the enabling technology that's making all this go.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Are LLMs durable enough as a technology to build all the things you want them to do? No. Not just the LLM. It's not just the LLM. I understand that it's not just the LLM, but it is the enabling technology that's making all this go.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Right, if it can do it because it's not deterministic. Right. You're not issuing these like Boolean commands.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Right, if it can do it because it's not deterministic. Right. You're not issuing these like Boolean commands.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Right, if it can do it because it's not deterministic. Right. You're not issuing these like Boolean commands.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

One of the things that I think is really interesting about the product, you talked about the kids demo where it was telling a story to a kid. I've had my kid talk to ChatGPT in that way. I think it's fascinating to see that interaction develop. Then there's simple stuff. Yesterday, I sat in one of the smart home demos, and they turned the lights from blue and green to like a warm yellow.