Nina Burley
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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But silence fires the imagination of the spiritually timid.
But silence fires the imagination of the spiritually timid.
So she's making fun of him in his own journal. Very toxic relationship.
So she's making fun of him in his own journal. Very toxic relationship.
Their kids thought that they worked at the post office.
Their kids thought that they worked at the post office.
All these men had PTSD before they called it PTSD. And especially when they all went into the CIA and decided, you know, now we're going to keep this world under control and we're never going to have a world war like that again, so we have to control everything around the planet. Of course, that stressed them out.
All these men had PTSD before they called it PTSD. And especially when they all went into the CIA and decided, you know, now we're going to keep this world under control and we're never going to have a world war like that again, so we have to control everything around the planet. Of course, that stressed them out.
What those women were able to do was, you know, they were entertainment and they were social. They had dinner parties and they kept the men amused. And at those gatherings, they knew they weren't supposed to repeat what they overheard. And in those interactions, these social interactions, they did pick up, you know, lots of gossip.
What those women were able to do was, you know, they were entertainment and they were social. They had dinner parties and they kept the men amused. And at those gatherings, they knew they weren't supposed to repeat what they overheard. And in those interactions, these social interactions, they did pick up, you know, lots of gossip.
You know, let's say Alan Dulles thought about a certain, you know, journalist being a spy. You know, they would pick up little bits and pieces here and there. And the danger of that kind of a woman in that society for the men is, is that they're going to blab it or they're going to tell somebody else what was going on or, you know, this is the Cold War.
You know, let's say Alan Dulles thought about a certain, you know, journalist being a spy. You know, they would pick up little bits and pieces here and there. And the danger of that kind of a woman in that society for the men is, is that they're going to blab it or they're going to tell somebody else what was going on or, you know, this is the Cold War.
I mean, the Cold War and, you know, the stakes are incredibly high.
I mean, the Cold War and, you know, the stakes are incredibly high.
Washington at the time was just riven with spies. And so if you have a woman like that in your crowd who is not on board with what's happening, which she eventually was not, then that person could pose a challenge to people like Dulles or James Angleton, the super paranoid counterintelligence chief, She was very attractive.
Washington at the time was just riven with spies. And so if you have a woman like that in your crowd who is not on board with what's happening, which she eventually was not, then that person could pose a challenge to people like Dulles or James Angleton, the super paranoid counterintelligence chief, She was very attractive.
So she presented a challenge because women are, by definition, subversive because they're not members of the power structure there. So not to be entirely trusted.
So she presented a challenge because women are, by definition, subversive because they're not members of the power structure there. So not to be entirely trusted.
They didn't fully step out and into these roles of, I'm the artist, I'm the lawyer, I'm a career woman. That didn't even occur to them. She was busting out of that a little bit by the time she got divorced.
They didn't fully step out and into these roles of, I'm the artist, I'm the lawyer, I'm a career woman. That didn't even occur to them. She was busting out of that a little bit by the time she got divorced.