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Murder on the Towpath with Soledad O’Brien

The CIA Wife

Wed, 07 May 2025

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Mary Pinchot came from a rich, eccentric family. The kind of folks who rode horses naked on their estate and hobnobbed with Kennedys. She was fiercely committed to world peace, but ended up marrying a CIA man named Cord Meyer. It was only after a tragic accident that she became known for her distinctive paintings. What started as a hobby became a lifeline in the years before her death.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who were Mary Pinchot and Cord Meyer?

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To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box.

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1795.973 - 1807.439 Dan Bush (Alive Again Host / Survivor)

And return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories.

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1807.659 - 1809.56 Unknown Survivor

I'm not a victim. I'm a survivor.

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1809.74 - 1813.722 Dan Bush (Alive Again Host / Survivor)

You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive.

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1813.993 - 1819.135 Unknown Survivor

Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who was smiling when he cut his arm off.

1819.455 - 1831.479 Dan Bush (Alive Again Host / Survivor)

Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

1835.22 - 1841.602 Stacey Vanek-Smith (Everybody's Business Host)

A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.

1842.278 - 1848.621 Unknown Economic Analyst

Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

1848.821 - 1856.745 Max Chastain (Everybody's Business Host)

The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.

Chapter 2: What personal tragedies did the Meyer family face?

2585.001 - 2612.385 Soledad O'Brien

Mary ran downhill to her son's body. He had died instantly in the crash. She kept her composure in the moment, but later it all sunk in. She gave away Michael's Christmas presents and found other ways to cope. She encouraged Michael's friends to come visit and pick one of his toys to keep for themselves. I'm a mother of four. The idea of Mary giving away those toys is absolutely heartbreaking.

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2613.166 - 2625.44 Soledad O'Brien

Was it because she couldn't bear to look at them? Or did she want his toys to bring joy to other children, a way of having his memory live on? It's hard to fathom the depths of Mary and Cord's sadness.

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2626.064 - 2635.009 Nina Burley

The death, of course, was devastating. She never got over it. He probably didn't either, as you don't when you lose a child.

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2635.469 - 2641.152 Soledad O'Brien

Cord was hoping that this tragedy would bring them closer together, but it was not to be.

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2641.592 - 2650.997 Nina Burley

That accident actually was the catalyst for her divorce and really for her changing her life from, you know, to being more of an artist and practicing more creatively.

2651.641 - 2675.873 Soledad O'Brien

In her grief over her son, over her marriage, over the hopes for her future, Mary needed to regain her sense of self. She would breach society's expectations of her. She would start volunteering at an art gallery and establishing her own home. She'd get a painting studio in Georgetown. She'd begin painting in the morning and taking a daily walk along the Georgetown towpath.

2676.573 - 2702.749 Soledad O'Brien

And just like Mary's short story at Vassar, everything was about to be new and exciting and different and interesting. Next time on Murder on the Towpath, we return to Mary's murder trial, where Ray Crump is facing the death penalty. The police found him soaking wet near the towpath. But could someone else have committed the crime and had time to escape?

2703.409 - 2728.293 Soledad O'Brien

To find out, I go to the scene of the crime, to the towpath itself. It's almost not secluded enough to make you feel afraid or to get a sense of foreboding about what's coming. On Mary's last walk, in her moments of solitude, she was surrounded by beauty, an exposed path in nature. Mary wouldn't have had reason to be scared at all.

2732.83 - 2759.368 Soledad O'Brien

From Luminary, Murder on the Towpath is a production of Film Nation Entertainment in association with Neon Hum Media. Our executive producers are me, Soledad O'Brien, Alyssa Martino, Milan Papelka, and Jonathan Hirsch. Lead producer is Shara Morris. Associate producers are Natalie Rinn and Lucy Licht. Senior editor is Catherine St. Louis. Music and composition by Andrew Eapin.

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