Nish Kumar

Yes, yeah, absolutely.

We all exist inside that contradiction of going, well, even if I never have another disposable plastic water bottle as long as I live, it's not really going to make that much difference.

Because what we need is pandemic era urgency, ground all the planes yesterday action.

We need huge legislative change.

And we're not going to get that anytime soon.

And...

I can't do anything about it with my individual choices.

The mentality I try and have is it's like voting.

Voting is simultaneously the most important weapon that you've got.

And also it feels completely, you know, pointless.

Like some people are in boroughs, areas where their vote won't make a difference, but you still have to turn up and vote.

If we have conversations about it all the time, it stops climate being invisible.

Because if it's invisible, how can we vote?

How can we decide?

You know, how can we try and steer the direction we're going in?

The context that you're talking about it most often is to a comedy audience.

So how do you stop the audience from just immediately switching off?

One of the big challenges is climate has this awful branding problem.

Like it sounds like it's tedious homework.

Do you know what I mean?