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Nish Kumar

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3865 total appearances

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Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

this was not something I was aware of and I was not aware of the significance of what the Nixon government did.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Could you just briefly outline that?

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Which, again, is such an important precedent.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Right.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Let's look at Elon Musk and use him as a sort of way into discussing one of the biggest financial risks taken by Wall Street in the last few years, which is the gamble on artificial intelligence.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

It's technology that doesn't exist yet in real terms.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Now, I'm not an expert.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Yeah, that doesn't seem smart.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

It doesn't seem particularly wise.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

And it feels like a huge bubble that's about to burst.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

So with Elon Musk, SpaceX announced a $1.25 trillion deal this week to acquire XAI, which is a company also founded by Musk, which was announced last month to be the recipient of a $2 billion investment from Tesla, which is another company owned by Elon Musk.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

According to a Reuters source, XAI was valued at $250 billion.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

We're talking about technology that doesn't exist, and we're talking about companies being bought by other companies owned by the person that owns all the companies.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Please help me make sense of what's happening here.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Like way over the odds.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

What you're saying is we shouldn't look at the AI bubble as something distinct or in any way separate.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Yeah.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

And we shouldn't look at tech companies as being distinct or separate.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

If the entire stock exchange in the States is kind of based around AI companies and companies like NVIDIA that make the hardware, but all these companies are doing is essentially leveraging debts off different bits of themselves, then surely that is a bubble that's going to burst.

Pod Save the UK
140: Will Mandelson be Starmer’s downfall?

Is it 2005 again?