Nish Kumar

This is not a problem that we can just sort of wish away.

We need to have difficult conversations, I think.

You know, our friends, my friends in the States, that is the kind of exhaustion of it because they just, every single day, they don't know what he's going to do

what he's going to do next.

You know, there are ICE agents running around US cities.

These are people armed with very little training in some instances that I think, you know, is really exhausting.

And if you want to hear a sane American perspective on the Trump tariffs, head over to our sister pod, Pod Save America, where Jon Jon and Tommy will take you through them.

Now, thankfully, Keir Starmer has managed to get one potential win on the board this week with the long-awaited Warm Homes plan, which will release £15 billion of funding to upgrade homes in England.

To talk about this and a couple of other key issues, we're delighted to be joined by Liam Thorpe, the political editor of the Liverpool Echo.

Liam, welcome to Pod Save the UK.

Thanks very much for having me.

It's an honour and a privilege.

That is a huge claim, Liam.

I mean it.

I don't think anyone's ever been honoured to be in my presence before, whether in real life or on Zoom.

I'm a huge inspiration to local journalists everywhere.

Liam is referring to a show called Hold the Front Page, which is available on Sky TV and Now TV, where me and Josh Winnicombe attempted to be local journalists

And I think it's fair to say, showed how difficult the job of journalism really is.

Yeah, I think that was sort of the aim of it.

Because Josh actually did a qualification in journalism.