Noah Kagan

And so kind of this concept lately I've been really, really embracing is like, what's the hard thing I'm avoiding and how do I go into that? So I voted the book for a while of it. And then I was like, no, I'm going to go full in. Same with apps and with CEO. I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it. I wanted someone else to do it.

And so kind of this concept lately I've been really, really embracing is like, what's the hard thing I'm avoiding and how do I go into that? So I voted the book for a while of it. And then I was like, no, I'm going to go full in. Same with apps and with CEO. I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it. I wanted someone else to do it.

And same thing when he quit, when I was on a bike ride, I was biking across America and he quit. And, uh, I didn't want to come back. And he, one of my best friends was like, well, who's paying for the bike trip? I was like, absolutely. He was like, well, you should probably, and the guy who's running, it doesn't want to be there. So I came back and had to face that.

And same thing when he quit, when I was on a bike ride, I was biking across America and he quit. And, uh, I didn't want to come back. And he, one of my best friends was like, well, who's paying for the bike trip? I was like, absolutely. He was like, well, you should probably, and the guy who's running, it doesn't want to be there. So I came back and had to face that.

And, you know, the same experience, like it's surprising how much we're afraid of things. And when you finally do it, you're like, it wasn't as hard as I thought. Right. And I'm much more capable than I realized. And that's true for everyone. Right. And it's just thinking about what these things are. Wow.

And, you know, the same experience, like it's surprising how much we're afraid of things. And when you finally do it, you're like, it wasn't as hard as I thought. Right. And I'm much more capable than I realized. And that's true for everyone. Right. And it's just thinking about what these things are. Wow.

They're both insanely hard. Both insanely hard. Yeah. AppSumo is definitely some of the hardest work I've ever done. And I would say by being an entrepreneur, though, I feel lucky. I feel like it's the hardest thing, but this is the part that I think I'm assuming you can resonate with. The things that are the hardest for us are also on the other side of that, the things we're most proud of.

They're both insanely hard. Both insanely hard. Yeah. AppSumo is definitely some of the hardest work I've ever done. And I would say by being an entrepreneur, though, I feel lucky. I feel like it's the hardest thing, but this is the part that I think I'm assuming you can resonate with. The things that are the hardest for us are also on the other side of that, the things we're most proud of.

I don't know. We're never not proud of ourselves when we do something hard for ourself. And I'm really proud of my work at AppSumo where I'm like, I'm showing up. And so for everyone out there, whether you're doing YouTube, whether it's religion, whether it's sports, whether it's a business, like how are you showing up or in your partner? And the same thing with my partner where.

I don't know. We're never not proud of ourselves when we do something hard for ourself. And I'm really proud of my work at AppSumo where I'm like, I'm showing up. And so for everyone out there, whether you're doing YouTube, whether it's religion, whether it's sports, whether it's a business, like how are you showing up or in your partner? And the same thing with my partner where.

It's been a challenge. You know, I'm flying to Spain. I'm staying up till 10, 11 p.m. to work Spain hours so that I can be with her. And now that she's pregnant, it's like, okay, am I really showing up in the relationship for what she needs? And that's, lately it's been awesome. It's been, I'm happy to show up for those things, but it's been, it's been a journey to get to that point.

It's been a challenge. You know, I'm flying to Spain. I'm staying up till 10, 11 p.m. to work Spain hours so that I can be with her. And now that she's pregnant, it's like, okay, am I really showing up in the relationship for what she needs? And that's, lately it's been awesome. It's been, I'm happy to show up for those things, but it's been, it's been a journey to get to that point.