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Noah Shachtman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
327 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

We've all been through it if you've been through Vegas.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

There was like a series of fast food places.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

I think there was a Gordon Biersch and there was a Burger King.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And his buddy was having a problem with...

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

employee theft.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And so he set up a little system to monitor the employees, to set up cameras and to spot what the employees were doing to see if they were, I don't know, you know, giving out free Whoppers or whatever.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

While all this is happening, okay, facial recognition as a technology is getting exponentially more sophisticated and easier to implement.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Like I talked to one security guy who was like, oh yeah, I've got a facial recognition system set up in my home.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

No big deal.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Why is it no big deal?

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

For the same, you know, kind of like AI craziness that's going on throughout the country right now.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Like it used to be that you had to do these very, very specific guidelines about you must look in this area of the face and that area of the face.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And you had to really tell the algorithm what you want to see.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

These days, you just kind of let the algorithms do their thing and scan on their own.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And so that, like everything in Vegas, obviously led to casino work, right?

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Because Valentino realized that if he could spot the BK thieves, that he could then do more sophisticated facial recognition.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

That led to a gig at a nightclub at the MGM Grand, a nightclub that, at that time, Dolan owned a piece of.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

So they got a facial recognition system set up at Hakkasan, and eventually that led to a gig with the Nascent Sphere and also a gig in Madison Square Garden.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

They've invested in a company called Extract One.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

That's extract with an X. And they do those kind of New Jack metal detectors that you now see at a lot of different arenas, right?