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Noah Shachtman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
327 total appearances

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Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Yeah.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Yeah.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Right.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

According to the NYPD, it's nobody on their list.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And look, I'm not saying that the garden is unsafe.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

I'm not saying that at all.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

I'm just saying that they're not using NYPD data.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Not exactly.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

According to our sources, the MSG security staff has decided that outside the garden and outside the Beacon Theater and their Radio City musical, that's their jurisdiction too.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

And so they have functionally started cosplaying as cops in their neighborhoods.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

Well, first of all, I just have to say the NYPD was like, we don't have anything to do with this.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

We don't know what those guys are up to, which is weird.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

But secondly, I don't know what they're allowed to do like legally, but here's what the lawsuit says.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

They go after like those guys that sell merch, unauthorized merch outside of concerts and outside of the garden.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

They will go and bust those people.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

They will go after scalpers who might be still trying to do their hustle, but they'll do more than that.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

What the lawsuit says and what we had garden staffers confirm to us was that if a protest happened to go by the garden or one of the other venues, that they'd kind of wiggle their way into the protest and maybe do a little observations on the people protesting.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

They at least have that capability.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

There's at least the motivation and the precedent to keep watch and to listen in as people move in and around the neighborhoods.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance โ€” and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think

I even talked to some sources, some people who worked for the garden, who say that they're afraid or they've got to be very careful when they go to like local bars.