Noam Hassenfeld

Like when I was speaking to Stefan, he told me he had tinnitus.

And he was like, and actually it's way worse than normal right now because we've been talking about it for an hour and it's really annoying.

I mean, honestly, it really, really does.

It's so frustrating.

The best way that is available right now for treating tinnitus...

does seem to be something like mindfulness.

I look at the example of Kelly.

She said, okay, I was using these maskers before, but I'm trying not to use the maskers anymore.

I'm trying to let my brain hear the entire world again.

You know, she told me she went to go see fireworks and at first the fireworks were like really upsetting and scary and she kind of got used to it.

And that's not to say it's been easy.

That's not to say her tinnitus is gone.

But what she's doing now is just trying her best to hear the tinnitus along with everything else.

Oh, yeah.

First of all, it's made me so paranoid about my hearing.

By the end of these conversations with these scientists, I basically got to the point where I guess I would say that it feels like our brains are just kind of putting on a play for us.

Like we're not actually hearing the stuff that's out there.

It's like the stuff that's out there is the script.

And then our brain is reading the script for us and acting it out.

And that's actually what we're observing.