Noam Scheiber

So even on these so-called cultural issues, these non-economic issues, we've actually seen some convergence that suggests that these two groups of people don't have so little in common that they can't even talk to one another.

Yeah, I really think it's going to add to this sense that college grads are workers just like people without a degree who are at the mercy of executives and big, powerful companies.

I think one thing that we're seeing with AI is that it's spreading that sense of powerlessness to a whole variety of white-collar workers that hadn't really been affected by this before.

So whether you're talking about lawyers or people in banking and finance or consulting or marketing or sales, suddenly all these folks are now having to contend with AI and with the leverage that that gives their employers to

And with the lack of leverage that they suddenly have in their own jobs when they can see that a machine can do their work almost as well, if not better than they can.

I think it's a little hard to say what the political consequences are going to be over the next five or 10 years.

But one thing that I can say with certainty is that I've really seen in my own reporting how radicalizing the shift can be.

I report a lot on tech workers and their relationship to their companies and their bosses.

And just over the past few years, amid the rise of AI, I've just seen this incredible anger kind of ricocheting across the internet and in channels where they typically congregate

It used to be that these folks really thought that their companies had their best interest at heart.

They thought that they had good relationships with their bosses.

They wanted to be their bosses.

And as these big tech companies have laid people off and have cited all the ways that AI is changing their jobs and how many workers they need, these folks, they're really lashing out in ways that I've never seen before.

And I think that's only going to be exacerbated as we see these companies worth hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars go public in a way that's really accruing to just a small portion of very affluent, very rich owners and founders of these companies and leaving behind tens of thousands of people who've been laid off just in the last year or two amid the rise of AI.

So we don't know when exactly this will have a political effect or how large that political effect will be.

But I think we can say that this dividing line between the 1% and the 99% is as stark as it's ever been.

And I would guess that it's only going to get starker going forward.

Thanks for having me.