Noel King

What was your gut reaction to that?

And then when you had time to think it through, where did you land on that?

Hmm.

But what is the penalty for blasphemy?

Let me ask you one last question.

There's a writer, Tim Alberta.

I'm sure you're aware of him.

He comes from an evangelical background.

I'm not sure if he is still an evangelical, but I suspect he may be because he tweeted this the other day in response to President Trump and the image.

My conviction remains God did not ordain Donald Trump to rescue the American church or revive the American church or redeem the American church.

God ordained Donald Trump to test the American church, and the American church has failed.

What do you think God is trying to do with President Trump?

Pastor Doug Wilson, thank you so much for your time.

We really appreciate it.

Today's team, Hadi Mouagdi, Jolie Myers, David Tadishore, and Gabriel Donatov.

I'm Noelle King.

It's Today Explained.

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did not get a deal with Iran this weekend.

The bad news for Iran is an American blockade, effective as of this morning, of the Strait of Hormuz.