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Today Explained, we're back with David A. Graham from The Atlantic.

David, in the first half of the show, we talked about what the Trump administration got done from Project 2025.

What did they fail to get done?

Trump and his people have been pretty honest while in office about what they want.

Like they've said a lot of what they plan to do and then try to carry it out in some instances very successfully.

What do you think we're going to see more of in the year ahead?

Like what what maybe have we not been paying enough attention to that they've been banging the drum on and we should?

The Heritage Foundation, where Project 2025 originated, has of late had a mess on its hands.

The president, Kevin Roberts, defended this chummy interview that Tucker Carlson did with Nick Fuentes, the far right anti-Semite.

There was all of this conversation about do Republicans like Nazis now?

And has the upheaval there changed the administration's relationship with Heritage?

That is very interesting, and it makes me wonder whether they are taking credit for what's been accomplished so far, whether they've said, like, in 2026, Heritage has additional agenda items, Mr. President, and we'd like you to, you know, take care of those, too.

It is not just Heritage, of course, that can't really figure out where it stands with the president.

There are huge schisms in conservatism right now over, oh my gosh, U.S.

intervention in Venezuela and elsewhere, the ACA premiums, the Epstein files.

When you look at these splits, what do they tell you about how united or not the conservative movement is behind what's in Project 2025?

I remember after Trump was elected, and of course, Republicans won the House and the Senate, and it was like, look, Americans voted.