Noel King

If Trump proceeds to do a Project 2025, that's what Americans voted for, right?

So we have got the midterms coming up later this year, and I think there's a sense that Republicans are going to want to need to moderate to some degree to hold on to the House and the Senate, and they're going to have to pull back on some of this stuff that strikes Americans as extreme.

Do you see moderation coming this year?

And do you see that affecting how Project 2025 plays out?

So then that brings us to perhaps our last question, which is the changes that have been made.

Do you think that they are permanent changes?

Like if Americans say we don't actually like what's gone on here, is this the way that we live three years from now, five years from now?

And here I'm thinking about ice in the streets.

I'm thinking about midnight incursions into Venezuela.

I'm thinking about a lot of the things that have got a lot of Americans on edge and that polling is showing Americans feel quite leery about.

David A. Graham, he's a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America.

Today's show was produced by Avishai Artsy and edited by Amina El-Sadi.

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I'm Noelle King.

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