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Coming up, everyone's a critic.

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But our next guest is, and he's going to explain how culture moved so far to the right.

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W. David Marks, no relation, is a cultural critic and author of the new book Blank Space, A Cultural History of the 21st Century.

So David writes that in the waning years of the 20th century, pop culture got very stale, that dominant culture was liberal, it was centrist, it was Clintonian.

And so a counterculture emerged, embodied by Vice magazine.

What leads me to look at something like Vice at that time and think, oh, that's so cool?

I'm having a response to what came before.

What was it?

I remember hearing someone talk about Charlie Kirk after he was assassinated.