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And that was aimed at increasing the population, strengthening the nation. You had Soviet Russia as well. They wanted to respond to population losses during and after World War II. The goal was increase the birth rates, bolster the workforce. And then even here in the U.S. in 1920s America, women had the right to vote. They could go to work.

And that was aimed at increasing the population, strengthening the nation. You had Soviet Russia as well. They wanted to respond to population losses during and after World War II. The goal was increase the birth rates, bolster the workforce. And then even here in the U.S. in 1920s America, women had the right to vote. They could go to work.

And so there were lots of concerns about what that meant in regards to having babies. And now we've seen this resurgence, I guess, of pronatalism because you do have this modern tech look to it, don't you? You have many in Silicon Valley who have taken a big interest in pronatalism.

And so there were lots of concerns about what that meant in regards to having babies. And now we've seen this resurgence, I guess, of pronatalism because you do have this modern tech look to it, don't you? You have many in Silicon Valley who have taken a big interest in pronatalism.

It's interesting, isn't it? The pronatalists, many of them don't want to just increase the birth rate. Some want to sort of optimise the children being born. You get those who are pro-family and pronatalists. I think that's probably how I would try and separate the two. And not everyone who is pro-having kids probably tests their embryos to the extent that

It's interesting, isn't it? The pronatalists, many of them don't want to just increase the birth rate. Some want to sort of optimise the children being born. You get those who are pro-family and pronatalists. I think that's probably how I would try and separate the two. And not everyone who is pro-having kids probably tests their embryos to the extent that

the Collins family do or even can afford to do it. So you do get families who do the common testing to make sure their unborn child is healthy, not at risk of any hereditary diseases. But whilst the numbers doing what the Collins family is doing is much smaller. I think there is actually a huge push by the Silicon Valley tech world.

the Collins family do or even can afford to do it. So you do get families who do the common testing to make sure their unborn child is healthy, not at risk of any hereditary diseases. But whilst the numbers doing what the Collins family is doing is much smaller. I think there is actually a huge push by the Silicon Valley tech world.

Prominent figures in the tech industry, they're not just passive observers, but they're almost becoming like active participants in this so-called reproductive revolution. They're investing so much money, like millions and millions in startups focused on fertility and genetic technologies to try and encourage so-called super babies. And of course, that is just ethically hugely controversial.

Prominent figures in the tech industry, they're not just passive observers, but they're almost becoming like active participants in this so-called reproductive revolution. They're investing so much money, like millions and millions in startups focused on fertility and genetic technologies to try and encourage so-called super babies. And of course, that is just ethically hugely controversial.

I imagine pro-natalists would never go around saying we only want white people to be born. We only want white children. I think, however, when you look at the movement more closely, there is a fine line between the concern about birth rates in the developed world and the great replacement theory. This is considered racist.

I imagine pro-natalists would never go around saying we only want white people to be born. We only want white children. I think, however, when you look at the movement more closely, there is a fine line between the concern about birth rates in the developed world and the great replacement theory. This is considered racist.

It posits that white Americans and Europeans are being replaced by non-white immigrants.

It posits that white Americans and Europeans are being replaced by non-white immigrants.

Many would say that the Collinses do have a point there, but it does leave them open to this argument that certainly liberals would make, which is if you want to... increase birth rates, if you want to address the declining population, then why not have more immigration? Why not bring people over from other countries? It has proven to be effective.

Many would say that the Collinses do have a point there, but it does leave them open to this argument that certainly liberals would make, which is if you want to... increase birth rates, if you want to address the declining population, then why not have more immigration? Why not bring people over from other countries? It has proven to be effective.

Net immigration is actually the main reason why the U.S. population is currently growing. But then you do get those who are skeptical about pro-natalist claims that this is just about economic reasons. They would say those certainly who are involved in pretty

Net immigration is actually the main reason why the U.S. population is currently growing. But then you do get those who are skeptical about pro-natalist claims that this is just about economic reasons. They would say those certainly who are involved in pretty

far right politics are more concerned about just quite bluntly having white babies and that they want to protect a vision of a more European culture. I mean, the hard policy reality is that raising birth rates enough to address the problems of population ageing and eventual decline is impossible. on the timescale required. Legal immigration, interestingly, in this country is a bipartisan issue.

far right politics are more concerned about just quite bluntly having white babies and that they want to protect a vision of a more European culture. I mean, the hard policy reality is that raising birth rates enough to address the problems of population ageing and eventual decline is impossible. on the timescale required. Legal immigration, interestingly, in this country is a bipartisan issue.