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President Donald Trump has said he wants legal immigration. Of course, illegal immigration is incredibly contentious. But as I say, there are those who would argue that immigration would be the way to solve declining birth rates. It would probably be the most effective way of doing it compared to having more babies.

President Donald Trump has said he wants legal immigration. Of course, illegal immigration is incredibly contentious. But as I say, there are those who would argue that immigration would be the way to solve declining birth rates. It would probably be the most effective way of doing it compared to having more babies.

Well, the way they keep the distance is just by saying, don't they, that we don't agree with them. We agree with the actual movement of pronatalism. We agree with the concept of increasing birth rates, but we don't share that view.

Well, the way they keep the distance is just by saying, don't they, that we don't agree with them. We agree with the actual movement of pronatalism. We agree with the concept of increasing birth rates, but we don't share that view.

That's why you do get critics of the pronatalist movement who say, well, you know, if you want to advance this movement, if you believe that this is the right way to increase birth rates, then you've got to look at who else is joining you with that message. And, you know, just also worth saying that critics of pronatalism, they say it doesn't just overlap with racism.

That's why you do get critics of the pronatalist movement who say, well, you know, if you want to advance this movement, if you believe that this is the right way to increase birth rates, then you've got to look at who else is joining you with that message. And, you know, just also worth saying that critics of pronatalism, they say it doesn't just overlap with racism.

They also are concerned about misogyny. They think that the sort of the pronatalist movement, certainly, again, the more extreme parts of it, view women as breeding machines whose job is to repopulate the earth.

They also are concerned about misogyny. They think that the sort of the pronatalist movement, certainly, again, the more extreme parts of it, view women as breeding machines whose job is to repopulate the earth.

Well, Elon Musk is constantly accompanied by his child everywhere he goes, whether it's the Oval Office, whether he's on Air Force One and what have you. And he recently welcomed his 14th child with another woman. But he's someone that's completely on record for saying that human population is on the verge of collapse. I mean, he's really sowed panic over it.

Well, Elon Musk is constantly accompanied by his child everywhere he goes, whether it's the Oval Office, whether he's on Air Force One and what have you. And he recently welcomed his 14th child with another woman. But he's someone that's completely on record for saying that human population is on the verge of collapse. I mean, he's really sowed panic over it.

And he is saying that low birth rates present this huge risk to civilisation. much more than global warming, he claims. You've got J.D. Vance, the vice president. He has three children. We know he's had a lot to say about women who don't have babies in the past, calling them childless cat ladies. Before he was elected, he downplayed it.

And he is saying that low birth rates present this huge risk to civilisation. much more than global warming, he claims. You've got J.D. Vance, the vice president. He has three children. We know he's had a lot to say about women who don't have babies in the past, calling them childless cat ladies. Before he was elected, he downplayed it.

But when he gave his first speech as vice president, this was at the March for Life in Washington, D.C., regularly held every year by those who are anti-abortion and those who call themselves pro-life. He said that he opposes abortion because, to quote him, he wants more babies in the United States of America. And then also another key member of Donald Trump's administration is Sean Duffy.

But when he gave his first speech as vice president, this was at the March for Life in Washington, D.C., regularly held every year by those who are anti-abortion and those who call themselves pro-life. He said that he opposes abortion because, to quote him, he wants more babies in the United States of America. And then also another key member of Donald Trump's administration is Sean Duffy.

He was confirmed as the transportation secretary. And shortly after that, he circulated an order telling his department to give preference to communities with marriage and birth rates higher than the national average when awarding grants.

He was confirmed as the transportation secretary. And shortly after that, he circulated an order telling his department to give preference to communities with marriage and birth rates higher than the national average when awarding grants.

Definitely. And, you know, Donald Trump is also very closely aligned with the tech world. Fertility generally is becoming this sort of pet project in Silicon Valley. I think in 2023, there was about $174 million invested in it. You've got Sam Altman. He's the head of OpenAI. He once had a big family. He's investing in experimental fertility technology.

Definitely. And, you know, Donald Trump is also very closely aligned with the tech world. Fertility generally is becoming this sort of pet project in Silicon Valley. I think in 2023, there was about $174 million invested in it. You've got Sam Altman. He's the head of OpenAI. He once had a big family. He's investing in experimental fertility technology.

It's a startup working to make egg cells out of other cells in the body, which basically means that a woman without viable eggs or even two men could make a baby. You've got some that are experimenting with using artificial wombs. And, you know, in some ways, this technology forward vision of pronatalism has become a religion.

It's a startup working to make egg cells out of other cells in the body, which basically means that a woman without viable eggs or even two men could make a baby. You've got some that are experimenting with using artificial wombs. And, you know, in some ways, this technology forward vision of pronatalism has become a religion.