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And, you know, tens of thousands of people demonstrated.

And the government actually was very open in opening a channel with a conversation with protesters.

And the president himself met with many of them.

And so long as these protests have demands that are realizable under the existing order, the government shows flexibility and tries to accommodate.

But once these protests become a protest for regime change, of course that suddenly turns into a national security issue.

and the government reacts very violently.

And of course, in the recent protests in January, now there are a lot of reports that are coming out that these protests that were expressed through economic grievances

and turned into a regime change demand was also instrumentalized and exploited by the Israelis, by the CIA, and by, you know, President Trump admitted that we sent arms to protesters.

Yeah, but that's part of that project.

You know, if the numbers are 3,000, just add another zero and then, you know, it justifies external intervention.

I mean, that's it.

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