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4/9/26: Oil Executives Panic, Bibi Rejects Ceasefire, Iran Victory Cements Gov Power
09 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What is causing panic among oil executives?
They will be the biggest exporter to any American adversary across the world. And we're going to pay for it, literally, with the oil. This is a nightmare of a strategic defeat for the United States.
It's crazy. And imagine over in Yemen, the Houthis look at this and they're like, oh, Bab el-Mandab Strait, which is at least as important as the Strait of Hormuz, also very critical choke point. Yemen has been a very poor country. Imagine they're like, okay, we'll set up a toll. And they've got Iranian support and access to those Shahid drones and what they need.
It doesn't take a lot to demonstrate your ability to control those choke points. And I mean, it really, really upends the way the whole world has operated. and the way you have to think about geopolitics.
So like I said, I think whether or not this happens in the next couple weeks or whether Trump is not ready to swallow this level of a clear defeat and decides to go back in and try some crazy thing and see if he can bomb their electrical grid or whatever into submission, it's ultimately going to fail and we're going to end up in something like this new world.
The crypto part is obviously also really significant. What does that indicate? They are bypassing the U.S.-led global financial structure. Again, that makes it so it is on their own terms. It doesn't mean that it's the total end of the petrodollar, the end of the U.S. as the global reserve currency or any of that, but it certainly does undermine it
it certainly does start to push the world more aggressively in that direction. And, you know, that is a massive, massive, complete change as well.
Right. And I mean, let's think even bigger, shall we? Like, let's think just globally about the Straits of Hormuz and what this level of destruction, you know, I'm really just thinking about what Yana said, the law, not the entire law of the sea, because I don't think the U.S. was even a signatory of it, even though We were like the guarantor of the international law of the sea.
It was based on the post-World War II Blue Water Navy ethos of we control commerce on the high seas anywhere and everywhere. This goes back to like the Barbary pirates that Thomas Jefferson dispatched the U.S. Marines to say, no, we will not allow a pirate veto. It's like, well, now we just did. Now what do we do? Like what do you do in this scenario? And because ā
We didn't envision a place where the American public, I mean, if you were to poll and ask, ultimately, did America have the capability of actually taking over the Straits of Hormuz? Yeah, we do. It would take hundreds of thousands of troops, lives, endless amounts of money. It would take a literal, almost a Pearl Harbor type event for somebody to really be able to support that. But we don't.
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Chapter 3: Why did Bibi Netanyahu reject the ceasefire?
We can go through a few of these. Griffin pulled a lot. He really went wild on the elements for this section, but let's go ahead and put a few of these up for D6. You see, the time has come, instead of Israel and the U.S. eliminating the regime, the regime is bombing Israel. Dear Trump, what did you do all this for? Eve Barlow, the ceasefire is disappointing.
At the end of the day, the people of the West have prioritized their own needs over the liberation of the people of Iran. Think of how twisted that is. She is saying that we need to keep bombing Iran, that that's really the good thing for the people of Iran. I have a feeling the people in Iran feel a little different about that. This guy says, don't know how I feel about this.
Another one says, this makes me sick. Let's do one more page of these Twitter reactions. Dr. Eli David says, WTF? Trump just shared Arachi's post that he accepted the regime's 10-point proposal. As a reminder, here is the 10-point proposal, which, of course, has, you know, the new reality in Strait of Hormuz, complete easing of sanctions, etc. And one more here.
This, of course, will be seen as weakness by the entire Middle East. Ceasefire is a very bad idea. I don't like it at all. Iran has not conceded anything. So there you go. A little bit of how... It's being received on Zionist Twitter. And let's go ahead and take a listen to Mark Levin, who unfortunately, you know, maybe people don't really listen to him that much in terms of the public.
But he is very influential, apparently, in terms of the White House and certainly in terms of sharing the views of the most influential Zionists in the country. So let's take a listen to his reaction.
We're not doing regime change. Everybody says no regime change. Okay. Then the regime survives in one form or another. The fundamentals survive. And so the question is, how do we keep this enemy, this poison, this cancer, these Islamist radicals, seventh century barbarians, how do we keep them in a box? And that's what we have to figure out.
If we're not gonna completely take them out because of the huge isolationist strain in the Democrat Party among the woke right, but again, MAGA, the Republicans are behind the president. But if we can't do it because of the political wins, if we can't do it because of other reasons, then how are we going to keep them in a box? It can't be just peace in our time.
We have a 10 point deal and they've agreed to this, this, this. I just think it's going to be very, very complicated, very, very difficult. And I would say this to the president of the United States. I personally know. that you will do the right thing, that you're gonna try and make sure that it works for now and forever.
And so I have complete faith in this man because he's brought us to this point where he's blown out their nuclear systems, where he's taking out or trying to take out all the enrichment, where he is not taking them at their word, where he has used our military in one of the most brilliant, spectacular military campaigns in American history. I'm glad he's there as president of the United States.
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Chapter 4: How has Iran's victory impacted its government power?
People are arrested, people are executed, people are exiled. But nevertheless, it doesn't mean that we are facing a very stagnant and static society. And I think that's... quite an important thing that it's usually erased from the mass media in the West, in Europe and in the US. And in my own scholarship, I always try to highlight that.
But whenever you highlight that, then it sounds like you're defending.
Yeah, like apologia, right?
You just mentioned execution.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, how does the protest movement fit into that? I'm sure that's going to be the most, you know, people will say, well, how can that be true if we just had this major protest movement? No, I mean, the protests always happen in Iran. It's not a new thing. And every two or three years since the end of the Iran-Iraq war, we have a major protest movement in Iran.
Sometimes the government is flexible enough to accommodate some of those demands. Sometimes if they feel an existential threat, they respond with brutality and violence and violence. And this most recent protest in December and January, for example, it started as a protest of economic grievances. And, you know, tens of thousands of people demonstrated.
And the government actually was very open in opening a channel with a conversation with protesters. And the president himself met with many of them. And so long as these protests have demands that are realizable under the existing order, the government shows flexibility and tries to accommodate.
But once these protests become a protest for regime change, of course that suddenly turns into a national security issue. and the government reacts very violently. And of course, in the recent protests in January, now there are a lot of reports that are coming out that these protests that were expressed through economic grievances
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the new tolls on the Strait of Hormuz?
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Oh, I mean, it undermines it greatly. And that's one of the issues that has always been part of the Iranian politics and its relation with American policies. And if you remember, for example, after 9-11 in 2001, when President Khatami was in office in Iran. And Iranians, actually, the government decided to change gears and become part of this war on terror, as George W. Bush called it.
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Chapter 6: How is the U.S. responding to the situation in the Strait of Hormuz?
And they have a different kind of understanding of war fighting. So they're used to more asymmetric warfare because they fought the United States.
Definitely, yes.
That's exactly the point, that the old guard was a symmetrical, I mean, very conventional kind of warfare, which was Iran-Iraq war was the longest conventional warfare of 20th century for eight years. with half a million people killed.
But these are a new generation of people who are basically coming out of that kind of asymmetrical warfare and very well versed, so to speak, of designing and strategizing in that kind of war. And also very different kind of political framing of war.
So how they would behave, how do they rethink their position that they're now in the position of decision-making in the revolutionary cause is yet to be seen. And I don't think we should rush to sort of a judgment that they're more militant or more radical.
Regardless of sort of who is in charge and who has the most sway, though, hasn't the argument of the hardline position been strengthened by what we've seen here? You know, for the reformers, they did the deal with Obama. Obviously, Trump rips it up, backs out of that deal. Biden, even though he's a Democrat, doesn't choose to get back in.
Trump uses the pretext of diplomacy as a ruse to start a new war. And now what it looks like is that Iran has been able to achieve much more in terms of their own security and their own wealth through this war, through violent means and taking a harder stance than they were through the reformist posture. So do you think that logic will be ascendant within the country?
Yes, yes, absolutely. And I mean, again, that started from access of evil speech because the supreme leader, the old supreme leader, leader, older Khamenei, always said that, you know, we should not trust Americans. And whenever you try to do reform, they would stab you in the back. And everybody said that, you know, he's paranoid, he's crazy and this and that.
But after 20 years of being stabbed in the back by the U.S., his words had gained a lot of credibility. And with the negotiating, in the middle of negotiation, 12-day war in June, in the middle of negotiation, this current attack, which according to the Omanis, the British, they were very, very close to an agreement in Geneva.
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Chapter 7: What are the historical contexts of Iran's current war?
blind ideological commitment. It was coming out of a very calculated, rational, pragmatic politics that they were fighting in Syria or in Lebanon.
Yeah. Meanwhile, we've got a Secretary of War who's got a Crusader's Cross tattooed on him, constantly talking about how God is protecting our bombing campaign. So I'm not sure we're in a position to lecture on theocracy at this particular point in time. Behrouz Gamari, thank you so much. Great to have your analysis.
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. We've got John Mearsheimer on the Friday show tomorrow. Don't want to miss that. See you then. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.
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