Nora Jones

And I don't think we should rush to sort of a judgment that they're more militant or more radical.

Yes, yes, absolutely.

And I mean, again, that started from access of evil speech because the supreme leader, the old supreme leader,

leader, older Khamenei, always said that, you know, we should not trust Americans.

And whenever you try to do reform, they would stab you in the back.

And everybody said that, you know, he's paranoid, he's crazy and this and that.

But after 20 years of being stabbed in the back by the U.S., his words had gained a lot of credibility.

And with the negotiating, in the middle of negotiation, 12-day war in June, in the middle of negotiation, this current attack, which according to the Omanis, the British, they were very, very close to an agreement in Geneva.

And in 48 hours, instead of finalizing the agreement, the supreme leader is assassinated.

So I think in general people are becoming more and more skeptical of the honesty and sincerity of the U.S.

in these negotiations and U.S.

policies towards Iran.

And I see that now in the past few weeks also that more and more people are joining forces

to people who were in the public squares in the middle of the night on bridges and so on and so forth to sort of say that they see now that kind of mistrust of American policy and which led to undermining any kind of reform minded political trend in Iran.

and give more legitimacy and credibility to a more militant and radical politics that comes out from the US.

And you know, I always told them, I've had many conversations with the people in the policy circles that

The U.S.

policies towards Iran, when the stated objective is to help democratizing Iran, actually constantly helps radicalizing the Islamic State, Islamic Republic.

I shouldn't say Islamic State.

Islamic Republic.