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Norman Finkelstein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
915 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

There is one extensive record from that whole period from 2000 to, you could say, 2007, and that is what came to be called the Palestine Papers, which are about 15,000 pages of all the records of the negotiations. I have read through all of them, every single page. And this is what I find. If you look at Shlomo Ben-Ami's book, which I have with me, Prophets Without Honor, it's his last book.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

He says, going into Camp David, that means July, going into Camp David, July 2000, he said the Israelis were willing to return about, not return, but will withdraw from, relinquish, 92% of the West Bank.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

He says, going into Camp David, that means July, going into Camp David, July 2000, he said the Israelis were willing to return about, not return, but will withdraw from, relinquish, 92% of the West Bank.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

He says, going into Camp David, that means July, going into Camp David, July 2000, he said the Israelis were willing to return about, not return, but will withdraw from, relinquish, 92% of the West Bank.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah. He was at Taba. Oh, yeah, he was also at Camp David. Yeah. They wanted, Israel wanted to keep all the major settlement blocks. It wanted to keep roughly 8% of the West Bank. They were allowing for, you put it at 84 to 90% in your books. They put it at roughly 92%. Israel was willing to give up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah. He was at Taba. Oh, yeah, he was also at Camp David. Yeah. They wanted, Israel wanted to keep all the major settlement blocks. It wanted to keep roughly 8% of the West Bank. They were allowing for, you put it at 84 to 90% in your books. They put it at roughly 92%. Israel was willing to give up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah. He was at Taba. Oh, yeah, he was also at Camp David. Yeah. They wanted, Israel wanted to keep all the major settlement blocks. It wanted to keep roughly 8% of the West Bank. They were allowing for, you put it at 84 to 90% in your books. They put it at roughly 92%. Israel was willing to give up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

It also depends what stage Camp David, because there were two weeks. I'll get to that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

It also depends what stage Camp David, because there were two weeks. I'll get to that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

It also depends what stage Camp David, because there were two weeks. I'll get to that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Israel wants to keep all the major settlement blocks. It means the border area of the West Bank. Well, not the border. We have Ariel. We have Male Adumim. We have a Condoleezza Rice called Ariel. She said it was a dagger into the heart of the West Bank. They want to keep 8% of the land. They want to keep the settlement blocks. They want to keep 80% of the settlers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Israel wants to keep all the major settlement blocks. It means the border area of the West Bank. Well, not the border. We have Ariel. We have Male Adumim. We have a Condoleezza Rice called Ariel. She said it was a dagger into the heart of the West Bank. They want to keep 8% of the land. They want to keep the settlement blocks. They want to keep 80% of the settlers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Israel wants to keep all the major settlement blocks. It means the border area of the West Bank. Well, not the border. We have Ariel. We have Male Adumim. We have a Condoleezza Rice called Ariel. She said it was a dagger into the heart of the West Bank. They want to keep 8% of the land. They want to keep the settlement blocks. They want to keep 80% of the settlers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

They will not budge an inch on the question of refugees. To quote Ehud Barak in the article he co-authored with you in the New York Review of Books, we will accept, and I think the quote's accurate, no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for what happened to the refugees. So forget about even allowing refugees to return.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

They will not budge an inch on the question of refugees. To quote Ehud Barak in the article he co-authored with you in the New York Review of Books, we will accept, and I think the quote's accurate, no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for what happened to the refugees. So forget about even allowing refugees to return.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

They will not budge an inch on the question of refugees. To quote Ehud Barak in the article he co-authored with you in the New York Review of Books, we will accept, and I think the quote's accurate, no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for what happened to the refugees. So forget about even allowing refugees to return.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

We accept no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for the refugees. And on Jerusalem, they wanted to keep large parts of Jerusalem. Now, how do we judge who is reasonable and who is not? Then Ami says, I think the Israeli offer was reasonable. That's how he sees it. But what is the standard of reasonable? My standard is, what does international law say?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

We accept no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for the refugees. And on Jerusalem, they wanted to keep large parts of Jerusalem. Now, how do we judge who is reasonable and who is not? Then Ami says, I think the Israeli offer was reasonable. That's how he sees it. But what is the standard of reasonable? My standard is, what does international law say?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

We accept no moral, legal, or historical responsibility for the refugees. And on Jerusalem, they wanted to keep large parts of Jerusalem. Now, how do we judge who is reasonable and who is not? Then Ami says, I think the Israeli offer was reasonable. That's how he sees it. But what is the standard of reasonable? My standard is, what does international law say?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

International law says the settlements are illegal. Israel wants to keep all the settlement blocks. 15 judges, all 15, in the war decision in 2004, in July 2004, all 15 judges, including the American Judge Bergenthal, ruled the settlements are illegal under international law. They want to keep 80% of the settlers. Under international law, all the settlers are illegal in the West Bank.