Norman Ohler

It was like the Paul Schrader thing when he wrote the screenplay to Taxi Driver.

He had like a gun in his drawer.

So he would get the vibe of like danger.

And so I wanted to have this crystal meth.

So this Polish guy sold it to me and he...

gave me a Xerox without me saying anything.

And maybe my friend, maybe she said he's a writer or something, but he gave me a Xerox, he gave me the methamphetamine one gram and the Xerox copy of the patent of Pavitin from 1938.

So this was a crystal meth dealer that actually had a historical knowledge about it.

Yeah, well, then I tried it because I really wanted, I could not really...

write about it in the same way without having tried it.

I can't recommend it.

It feels very toxic.

Like when you take a psychedelic, I can say this with a clear conscience, it's not toxic.

LSD is not toxic.

It doesn't poison you.

You might have reactions in your brain that are too much for you.

But if you snort crystal meth, it goes on your central nervous system, your heart starts pounding, your blood pressure rises.

So it's stressful on the organism.

It's toxic, you know.

But still, you know, the effect in the brain is not so interesting as with LSD.