Norman Ohler

I mean, now we all know about it.

But before that, no one knew about it.

Before 2015, when this book was published in Germany, the Nazis were still seen globally and also in Germany as this like pure movement that was...

Like I spoke to my grandfather when I was a teenager and I was, you know, obviously criticizing him for his involvement.

I wanted to know what did he do and he did some shit.

And then he always said under Hitler, everything was in order.

Like he praised that law and order aspect.

And that law and order aspect of the Nazis obviously doesn't correspond to like a drug using society.

So no one knew that the Nazis were taking drugs until I found out until I found documents for Blitz.

So but this so I was not surprised to see.

to find more and more stuff, what they were doing with drugs.

But then I was surprised that they actually also used psychedelics, because psychedelics were totally new, you know.

43 LSD was invented.

So it's kind of, I really was wondering, were the Nazis already getting their hands on LSD, which was just so new that hardly anyone in the world knew about this.

So this is the story of Tripped.

Well, ergot is the alkaloid of the fungus, which grows on rye.

From ergot, LSD is made, basically.

So actually LSD is not a synthetic drug, as many people believe, but it actually is based on a fungus extract, which grows on rye.

and the swiss the swiss company sandoz they produced only ergot-based medicines like they started after the first world war it was like a startup sanders was a color manufacturing company and they made a lot of money after the war because everything had to be rebuilt in europe stuff had to be repainted so companies that made paint made a lot of money so they invested in a pharmaceutical branch

And they hired one guy to kind of come up with an idea how to make money in the pharmaceutical world.