Norman Ohler

It was nice tasting and had some sugar in it.

And I read through all of the, you know, ingredients of the, there were different types and never, there's never methamphetamine in it.

Okay.

There was an SS doctor, Schenk, and he claimed that Morel made special vitamultin in his lab with meth in it.

But I think he just made that up.

Okay.

There was never any proof of that.

No, meth for him was just for the foot soldiers, you know.

I mean, he didn't even talk about meth.

This is nothing that concerned him, you know.

This is something that makes you function.

Maybe he signed, I mean, it went over his desk, the stimulant decree, but I don't know if he really read it or understood it.

I mean, he probably knew Pervitin because everyone knew it.

And maybe, you know, they discussed it, but they would probably also not...

I mean, there's a point when there's a conflict about methamphetamine in the army.

This is when the secretary of health of the German government, the Nazi government, Conti, he starts writing to the army and he says, you must stop this.

This is against Nazi ideology.

But the army basically doesn't listen to him and keeps on using meth all the way to the end.

So maybe that guy, Conti, maybe he discussed this with Hitler.

But also Hitler never, you know, if Hitler would have said we stopped the methamphetamine, it probably would have stopped.