Norman Ohler

Bavaria police quite sober that day.

They just, you know, shot him to the ground.

Hitler was almost killed.

Like he just jumped behind his bodyguard.

Göring during the Beer Hall Putsch was wounded in his stomach with a, I think a gunshot.

That's why he became a morphine addict.

So this Beer Hall Putsch in 23 had severe effects.

Also, they were sentenced to prison.

And Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison.

I mean, that's why I thought it's interesting, for example, to examine Hitler's drug use.

Mm-hmm.

When I announced that to a historian while I was doing research, he helped me a lot with methamphetamine and the army, proper medicine historian from the University of Ulm.

And then I said, now I'm interested in Hitler.

And he said, no, don't, this is not interesting.

This is not serious.

This is not serious history, but it's, you know, even Hitler was a person, you know.

And if you understand, for example, the substance abuse of a person, of course you understand more about that person.

And historians never had had that idea before.

Kershaw, for example, who is really a great, he's very knowledgeable about national socialism.

Like many British historians, they always know more about German history than the German historians.