Nosheen Iqbal

Well, let's look at some of those very recent outings of the lectern, as it were.

I mean, how did Keir Starmer's speech go down?

What did you make of it?

Because it felt like quite an unusual atmosphere on Downing Street.

Like, he walked out and there was a lot of whooping and clapping and cheering.

And, of course, yeah, it was a very sombre statement.

You could hear the tears, really.

Well, Raph, if you try to zoom out and look at this situation that we've got in Britain, this sort of sense of political perma-crisis, what, you know, would be described as systemic volatility and chaos, were it anywhere else, you know, how do you make sense of and explain Keir Starmer winning this massive landslide just two years ago?

I believe the third biggest in Labour's history to being so unpopular that he's effectively been booted out.

I mean, it feels like such a waste.

So if you were conducting a post-mortem on this premiership, where did things start to go wrong?

What, so doomed before you even started?

Selling hope effectively.

Yeah.

And to add to all of those obvious missteps, it feels like the political climate was changing around them and they were bleeding votes to the left, to the right, and they just kind of struggled to respond to that.

And I suppose the Mandelson stuff, people really did care about that saga unfolding and the decisions that were made behind the scenes.

But Rath, what would you say was the final straw for the public?

Coming up, the end of Starmer drama.

All that said, Raph, a lot of the problems that Starmer has faced won't go away with a new Labour leader, whether it's Andy Burnham or anyone else.

They will still come in and face some of those persistent economic challenges, you know, the cost of living crisis, high public debt, inflation and so on.