Nosheen Iqbal

What is it specifically about Starmer that you think has failed?

Irrespective of that, Ralph, there have still been triumphs in these two years.

What would you characterise as solid Starmer achievements?

Well, let's zoom forward in 15, 20 years.

I mean, what do you think Starmer's political legacy will be?

How will historians look back?

So Keir Starmer has announced a formal exit plan, which means we could have a new prime minister as early as July 17th.

Andy Burnham, meanwhile, didn't even give Starmer a day before announcing his leadership bid.

Just, you know, the pictures of him being sworn in as MP yesterday, it was quite something to behold.

All the Labour lot giddily lining up to take selfies with him, treating him as the coming messiah.

Even when streeting, his main rival up until this point, he's taken note of what he's up against and said that he's backing Andy.

Raf, how optimistic are you about what Andy Burnham will bring to the job and to the country at large?

Raf, thank you so much for your time.

That was political columnist Raphael Baer.

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This episode was presented by me, Nosheen Iqbal.

It was produced by Ivor Manley, Guy Safman, and Aisha Riaz.

Sound design is by Rudy Zagadlo, and the executive producer is Huma Khalili.

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