Nosheen Iqbal

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This episode was produced by Bryony Moore and Annie Levespa.

It was presented by me, Noshi Nikbal, and the senior producer was Ryan Ramgobin.

From The Guardian's Today In Focus, this is The Latest.

I'm Nosheen Iqbal.

Amna Modin, you are community affairs correspondent for The Guardian, and we're here today to talk about what potentially looks like a paradox on the face of it.

The country's first black female leader of a major political party calling for a total overhaul of equality rules.

Amna, could you have a crack at explaining Kemi Beydonk's position on the public sector equality duty and essentially what is it, first of all?

So Badenoch is absolutely confident in her beliefs about, you know, what this duty leads to.

But you've spoken to experts in the field, Amna.

Can you tell me what their take is on Badenoch's claims and what real life impact could this rollback potentially have?

an act on the common sense that she insists that everyone just has by default.

Exactly.

And it is curious timing because while Badenoch says that she's been working on this policy for months, she did then talk today about the Henry Novak case again and claims that police who arrested Novak were influenced by guidance saying that hate crimes should be treated as a priority.

Now, we know that she's a very skilled and experienced culture warrior.

She's an avowed fan of Trump's rollback of

diversity equity and inclusion policies in the states how much do you think though that this political strategy will help her win back those former conservative voters who have defected to either reform or to restore baden has been really consistent on this question on racial equality on gender equality so when she was the equalities minister she was very very critical of what she described as

Well, Bejulak says she's saying this and working on this policy because she believes it promotes unity.

But there's an irony that it seems to foster more division than anything else.

And she takes this real pull-yourself-up-by-bootstraps approach to the workplace, to equality, full stop.