Nosheen Iqbal

What do you make of how she's tackled all of this when she's, as you say, competing with the likes of Restore and Reform?

Stop it.

No.

I mean, arguably, you know, she can talk about this stuff, but she's so far from achieving power that it kind of seems irrelevant to some people.

Like, why are you talking about it?

It's just a distraction.

However, as you say, this stuff seeps into the discourse.

It moves the conversation further along.

And Badenoch is there, again, without actually being prime minister, having a massive impact on policy and on the conversation that people have.

And I wonder, you know, in your reporting, as you've been across the country,

How reflective do you think her position actually is of where the British public sits?

That's it for today.

My thanks to Amna Modin, The Guardian's community affairs correspondent.

You can keep up with all of Amna's reporting and coverage of this story over at theguardian.com.

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This episode was produced by Bryony Moore and Annie Levespa.

It was presented by me, Noshe Nikbal, and the senior producer was Ryan Ramgobin.

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