Ocean Vuong

You know, I think he's the one that I go to first when I do that meditation.

Is my brother okay?

You know, he's always... We're 10 years apart.

So I'm like a weird gay brother-father, you know.

But you embrace it.

You don't...

It's not a nuclear family.

What is a nuclear family?

It's just family.

It's what you owe.

To me, this book is about who owes who what.

And what do these characters do for each other?

They pile into a van off the clock and they go watch their manager wrestle at a bar to catastrophic results, right?

And then they say, you're still our manager.

Because that's what I witnessed, you know, and that's what we remember.

You know, if we're lucky, if we are so lucky, we will get a deathbed.

A lot of people don't get a deathbed.

And when we get that deathbed, we will remember these moments when people were kind to us, when they offered us grace and attention.

And I wanted to just, what a miracle to have the technology of the sentence.

Put that in a book and then just throw it in the world and say, do you get it?