Oli Patrick

We're out there for longer.

I can't remember his PB, but yeah.

Yeah, I kind of, like when you're making an effort to keep your heart rate as low as possible and therefore not putting yourself under a huge amount of physical strain, to use your words, you could do it all day type thing.

You don't get that great sense of achievement from the session, I feel, unless you go and run 30K or something, but obviously...

You know, it's time consuming.

We have kids and, you know, jobs and, you know, that's a once a week thing if you're really lucky.

Yeah.

Right.

So it's kind of, I love to feel like I'm exercising when I exercise.

You know, like, you know, if you're lifting weights, I like to lift heavy.

If I'm running, I like to run hard.

Yeah.

You know, so I love chatting to Stephen because it was similar to that.

Yeah.

Stephen was just like, well, then run hard.

Yeah.

You know, and if you can put up with it, running, his point was running five times a week hard.

Will be better for you if you're looking to run hard and fast marathons.

than running slow five times a week.

He was like, obviously... Potentially.