Oliver Stone
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No, I never saw it with him because my dad was, you know, he was an economist. He was very much a Wall Street man. But even at the end of his life, his conservatism was vanishing. He said at the end of his life, he said, you know, we made a big deal about Russia all my life. That was the thing of the Cold War. It was a really big deal. He scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
No, I never saw it with him because my dad was, you know, he was an economist. He was very much a Wall Street man. But even at the end of his life, his conservatism was vanishing. He said at the end of his life, he said, you know, we made a big deal about Russia all my life. That was the thing of the Cold War. It was a really big deal. He scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
So by the end of his life, by the late 70s and early 80s, you know, after the... Well, Reagan, it's true, he was in the middle of the Reagan era, but even Reagan started to let up after the near scare of Abel Archer in 1983. We had a near nuclear war with Russia. It was ridiculous. It was out of fear.
So by the end of his life, by the late 70s and early 80s, you know, after the... Well, Reagan, it's true, he was in the middle of the Reagan era, but even Reagan started to let up after the near scare of Abel Archer in 1983. We had a near nuclear war with Russia. It was ridiculous. It was out of fear.
And after that, if you remember, Reagan and Gorbachev got together in 86 and started the whole process of detente, which we've forgotten about. But we almost had a moment when we banned nuclear weapons completely from the earth. That almost happened. They'd reached a friendly moment when Reagan was a very affable man that way. And he said, why not? He said, why not? Why don't we get rid of them?
And after that, if you remember, Reagan and Gorbachev got together in 86 and started the whole process of detente, which we've forgotten about. But we almost had a moment when we banned nuclear weapons completely from the earth. That almost happened. They'd reached a friendly moment when Reagan was a very affable man that way. And he said, why not? He said, why not? Why don't we get rid of them?
And then, of course, the guy's on his spot. That's my father. And the guys behind him said, no, you can't do that, you can't. But George Shultz was in favor of that. He was the Secretary of State at that time. So it's possible. I mean, we can think differently, but sometimes we close up into our balls of fear.
And then, of course, the guy's on his spot. That's my father. And the guys behind him said, no, you can't do that, you can't. But George Shultz was in favor of that. He was the Secretary of State at that time. So it's possible. I mean, we can think differently, but sometimes we close up into our balls of fear.
No, that was based on the fact that we had all those scandals and all those young people were starting to make money, you see. My dad was the old Wall Street. I pictured that in the picture with Hal Holbrook and the father figure of Martin Sheen, who was a union leader. The younger crowd was amoral. A lot of them were into the business. People were making... Big money.
No, that was based on the fact that we had all those scandals and all those young people were starting to make money, you see. My dad was the old Wall Street. I pictured that in the picture with Hal Holbrook and the father figure of Martin Sheen, who was a union leader. The younger crowd was amoral. A lot of them were into the business. People were making... Big money.
I mean, I don't know if you remember, 83, 84, 85, people were making millions of dollars at the age of 28, 29. That was outrageous. We never had even seen that kind of money before. Young people were supposed to, you know, you don't make big money until you're 40s, 50s, right?
I mean, I don't know if you remember, 83, 84, 85, people were making millions of dollars at the age of 28, 29. That was outrageous. We never had even seen that kind of money before. Young people were supposed to, you know, you don't make big money until you're 40s, 50s, right?
Yeah, that was a penny stock crowd, but they were never mainstream. They were the sidestream. The people I'm talking about were mainstream. They were joining the mainstream, and they were controlling the stocks. We had those people. They were coming on.
Yeah, that was a penny stock crowd, but they were never mainstream. They were the sidestream. The people I'm talking about were mainstream. They were joining the mainstream, and they were controlling the stocks. We had those people. They were coming on.
And if you look very closely at the whole, the Gordon Gekko types ended up being the banks by the 2010 period when I did Wall Street Money Never Sleeps because that was the idea, is that the independent traders became this, by 2010, had so gamed the system and so inflated the system that they were the new chiefs. What do you think about Joseph Kennedy? What about him? I like him.
And if you look very closely at the whole, the Gordon Gekko types ended up being the banks by the 2010 period when I did Wall Street Money Never Sleeps because that was the idea, is that the independent traders became this, by 2010, had so gamed the system and so inflated the system that they were the new chiefs. What do you think about Joseph Kennedy? What about him? I like him.
I mean, he did amazing stuff. He created a clan. He nourished his kids to become leaders. And he was a very good father in the end. He turned out to be a very good father.
I mean, he did amazing stuff. He created a clan. He nourished his kids to become leaders. And he was a very good father in the end. He turned out to be a very good father.
No, he was the progenitor of a family. I admired John, as you know, and Robert very much, and Ted too, as well as the sisters.
No, he was the progenitor of a family. I admired John, as you know, and Robert very much, and Ted too, as well as the sisters.