Russia vs Ukraine, JFK Assassination, Trump vs Deep State w/ Oliver & Sean Stone | PBD Podcast | Ep. 522
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Winner in the Oscar goes to Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone for Midnight Express. Oliver Stone, born on the 4th of July.
Please welcome Oliver Stone.
I went into arms as a soldier eventually in 67, 8. And I saw things that just shocked me. Open my eyes, I'd never be the same again. Combat is a searing experience. And devastating to what your sense of life is worth. Your sense of self. You have no illusions about yourself. Or what life comes down to. It comes down to a very basic thing. Survival.
And with some consideration for all the men and women all over the world who are in prison tonight, I thank you. They are what? They are a reflection of you seeking something or, in a sense, taking leave of something? Taking leave and seeking.
Both occur. You've gone through a process and you leave it. You become a bit of what you've done. And it's sort of a benchmark that tells you, I was here and now I can move on.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Okay, so are we live, Rob? Yes, sir. Listen, can you imagine we're watching the intro here together, okay, with the great Oliver Stone and his son, Sean, who is here. They're working. Sean just finished up a documentary, All the President's Men, which we'll talk about later on with Tucker, with a bunch of different guys, about Trump. And I'm going through the list. And again, we had you on March of 2022, which when you were on at that time, the whole Ukraine thing was new. It had just happened. So we started talking about it. And, you know, it was kind of risky to give the opinions and you gave and we talked about it. But again, reminder to everybody what movies you've been a part of. If you don't mind me taking a moment and sharing this. Okay, Wall Street.
We just watched it with the kids the other day, okay? Writer and director. Wall Street Money Never Sleeps with Shia LaBeouf, director. Midnight Express, writer. Conan the Barbarian, writer. Scarface, writer. Platoon, writer and director. Born on 4th of July, writer, director, producer. JFK, all three. Natural Born Killers, all three. Nixon. By the way, I loved, loved Nixon. I can't believe most people don't watch that. It's such a great, Anthony Hopkins, phenomenal movie with the stories you see. Evita, Any Given Sunday, Alexander Snowden. I can keep going on. Things you've done with Lula, 2024 writer, director, Putin, all the interviews. It's great to have you here again. Oh, that's right. Nuclear energy with Russia, which we'll get into that as well.
Oliver, if you want to get a little closer to the mic, that'd be great. But it's great to have you guys here. So let me ask you for you, you know.
Where's my camera? I don't see myself. You have six cameras on you.
You have so many cameras. For you, when you think about it yourself, Sean, to you, he's your dad. But I mean, what is it for you when maybe we miss it? What do you think is the most impressive thing he's done in his career?
It's a good question.
From your perspective, not ours.
What is the most impressive thing? Giving birth.
Yeah, I don't think you did that. Apparently, he got kicked out of the hospital because he was watching the Niners. He was watching the Niners-Giants game. When you were born. Playoff game, 84. No, not before.
He got kicked out of the hospital?
The Niners won, at least.
He was happy. No, that's not true. You know, it takes a long time. You have to sit there and sit there. 12 hours sometimes. And it was a Saturday or something, and I wanted to see that game. So my wife was, my wife, I said, I'm going to go out and come back. And I came back with a pizza. I'll never forget. It was nauseating, the smell. She couldn't take it. So she asked me, get the fuck out. She was screaming. But then I came back. I saw him being born, by the way. I saw him coming out.
You saw him being born. He did. He did. That's cool. So what do you think it is? What do you think it is from your end? Because for us, again, as fans, you're on the inside.
Yeah. I mean, to a certain extent, I was more on a certain level of personal insight, but he's got a whole other life that I don't know. I think it's hard for me to say what's most impressive. You look at the films and what he's been able to do consistently across the years is be authentic and be a storyteller that's not beholden to the system.
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