Oliver Stone
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314 appearances
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4 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard Apr 2025
Oliver Stone’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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That's the thing. They don't take on the biggest. Oppenheimer is an interesting movie. I liked it as a movie. I loved it. There are some flaws in it, you know. The big flaw being that Truman is honestly pictured knocking Oppenheimer. Remember, that's a great scene in the movie. But what's ignored in the film is, for example, General Groves.
Leslie Groves is one of the most anti-communist generals we ever had, a total cold warrior from beginning to end. He said, quote, the quotes in the book, from the beginning, the Manhattan Project was created to address the Russian Empire. You know the line? Yeah, of course. Nothing more. It was not about Japan. It was about Russia.
Well, yeah, the Russians were in the war at that time. We knew that Japan was finished, but we had to keep going in those crucial few days to establish the weapon. And Leslie Groves, I mean, Matt Damon played him a very good performance, but I don't know. That's not Leslie Groves. It's not Leslie Groves.
And it doesn't go into the issue of whether, why we, Oppenheimer, I don't know, I'm sure Oppenheimer got an inkling of it later, no? Yes. At the time.
And then he got into trouble. That's when he really, he was in trouble.
Once you cross the Rubicon, you have to cross.
so speaking you're across the rubicon yes i i have crossed it um but when you came back uh from interviewing putin for your documentary it was released what was the reaction like quiet in l.a people they don't talk to me publicly they it's always behind closed doors right did you hesitate before doing it not really because it was fascinating new material my producer set up
no i was doing snowden in 2013 which was a very brave movie because we were dealing with a man who was exiled who i thought was a hero and was treated i agree as if he was a traitor so i wanted to make that move in making that movie i had to go to moscow to finish it and i met putin there and we talked about snowden first because that was where we met and what he said about snowden is he says in the movie is it's very true he didn't like what snowden did no
And he would have punished him probably the same way, but he understood the mechanics of it. Meanwhile, we got to know each other and my producer said, let's do an interview with him because he's a crucial figure right now. Yeah, we didn't know what was coming. We didn't know about the coup at that point. So we set up these interviews and we were talking
The coup had just happened at that point, so he was upset. And I, as an American, didn't really know the situation, so I was treating it like, you know, Ukraine, okay, what's the big deal? I mean, it's another one of the countries like Georgia, I thought.
And he looked at me, no, it's not a big deal for us, Mr. Stone. And he explained in the movie, what? I think he says that on tape. And I understand Ukraine better and better, but at first I didn't, I talked to Ukrainians. It was evident. I mean, it was coming. This thing is very dangerous.
It was a firecracker from 2014 on because it was a violation at the heart of the Soviet empire, of the Russian empire. That underbelly is where the invasions happened.
It's not just him. It's Russia. If he goes, if he's out and if Biden gets his wish and all these nutcases want to remove him, take him out. Fine, kill him. But it's not going to solve it. Russia is Russia. It's going to stay loyal to what it believes in. There is a... They don't have a democratic vote, but they have a consensus. If Putin was not doing what the people wanted, he'd be out.
That's the way it works. It takes maybe a couple of years more, but it doesn't. That's the way Russia works. if the Tsar didn't work out, they get rid of him, you know? And they shot him too. Remember, that's one of the reasons the Japanese were terrified of the Russians and why they surrendered, because they didn't want the Russians to invade the homeland. That was a big fear.
But the Russian people are very strong, but they're passive. So they talk in certain ways. You know, we believe the Moscow crowd, but the Moscow crowd doesn't talk for Russia. It's a bigger consensus.
Absolutely.
A lot. I can't tell you. I mean, he's a cool customer, as you know. He's seen a lot. He's been there for 23 years. I mean, he knows every world leader. He's seen six American presidents come and go. I would say he qualifies as a statesman and a wise man. Yes. And we don't pay any attention to him. We should. We should respect him. He has the experience.
He understands the American system, how it sends new leaders in and they change the policies all the time. But he thinks there is a deep state. That deep state. In the United States. Yeah. And that's what he has to deal with. And that deep state is very dangerous because when we started our conversations over three years, it was... our partners, the Americans. And I got irritated.
I said, why do you keep saying our partners, the Americans? They don't express these sentiments at all towards you. You're considered a murderer by Mr. Biden. And they think you kill people, you know, that you're some kind of character out of a James Bond spy movie. They keep talking about KGB, ignoring the fact that George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush was the head of the CIA.
What does that mean? They're a strong Christian culture, very much this concept of a, they don't, interesting thing, they go to church, they don't sit. at all during the service. They stand the whole time. That's serious too, if you remember going to Sunday school. So we're more Protestant. We're a divided culture and there are so many sects.
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