Olivia Rodrigo

Like that really informs me.

everything they do after that.

And so I'm like, I'm, I'm happy to have, have made mistakes and like done things that are maybe crammed or made a song that wasn't that good.

Like it happens and it's all, it's all part of a cool life.

And you're less self-conscious about that stuff now than you might've been, you know, sour era.

Yeah.

I think also, I mean, my last few records, I was like, I made them when I was like 17 and 19.

So I'm like, no, it's like, I did the best with what I could at the time.

And like with the people that I had around me at the time and,

And so, yeah, I don't know.

I used to beat myself up over stuff a lot.

They used to be really, really harsh.

And like something I think shifted in me a little bit where I'm like, how awesome that I get to make music and like...

feel connected to other people and make music videos that I think are cool and like talk about things that are important to me.

Like that's awesome.

Like I think coming at that from a place of joy is just the only way you can really do it.

Cause it's like, yeah, it's awesome.

Yeah, I think it's a really hard time, like just personally.

But I don't know.

I'm a fangirl.