Olivia

That wasn't an experience that was unique to me at all.

But I do think what he was doing was grooming.

I was at his absolute beck and call in college.

I would have done anything.

anything he wanted me to do because he was giving me opportunities and he made me feel special.

And because of that, I was intensely loyal to him and I think he needed that support.

Later on, whenever shit kind of hit the fan, he relied on that loyalty a lot.

I do think in a lot of ways that it was grooming.

I know that towards the end, especially when the situation with him and Miranda occurred, he relied on me to protect his image very heavily.

How long were you in the program before you met Miranda?

She

was a general studies major, I'm pretty sure, for one semester.

So we met the spring of freshman year.

We were in the same year.

There was a play our sophomore year that I was on the crew for, and she had a friend in it.

And I think at that point, she hadn't officially made...

the decision to transfer in to the department, but she was either thinking about it or like, in process with it.

I met her in passing.

Other friends who were very close to Cato would tell me like, he really wants you and this new girl Miranda to be in his play next year.

And so I knew immediately that like, we would probably end up spending a lot of time together.