Olivia

But we didn't get to know each other until the next fall whenever we were in that play.

My advice at that time probably would have been do everything you can to work with Cato.

Now my advice would be to like focus on making friends and learning how to build a community because I feel like we really lacked that in college because we were so isolated because of everything that was happening that we didn't get that experience in a lot of ways.

And I feel like we lost out on a lot of time with our peers because of that.

Yes.

We took the class at different times, but we did it very frequently together when we were in his shows.

It was his number one philosophy that he liked to practice, but it was a very slippery slope.

Emotionally, he would really push us to dangerous places emotionally and have us screaming at each other or bawling our eyes out.

And he's yelling at us and giving us commands.

It was incredibly intense.

Anytime you were in his rehearsal room, it was a way of making us vulnerable.

He would exploit that vulnerability in front of all of our peers and disguise it as teaching us how to act.

Whenever he would let us out of it, like when we would end a scene or end an activity, he would always give us a big hug or tell us something encouraging.

And that felt really good to me.

Knowing that I had his approval felt really good.

But emotionally, he called it scrubbed.

He would always be like, you're going to be so scrubbed when you get home.

The first show that Miranda and I did with him was called Love and Information.

We all represented broad emotions or like experiences.

So Miranda played sex and she was wearing lingerie, which should have never happened.