Olly Headey

overwhelming to me whereas at least with Ruby it's like kind of here's an ERB template and it's just basically HTML that feels a bit less but maybe when people go through these boot camps and do great so it could just be my own biases here that are showing but I think that's going to be an important part of Rails future success is to get in the ground again and make people realise that how

overwhelming to me whereas at least with Ruby it's like kind of here's an ERB template and it's just basically HTML that feels a bit less but maybe when people go through these boot camps and do great so it could just be my own biases here that are showing but I think that's going to be an important part of Rails future success is to get in the ground again and make people realise that how

great it is and i think you know that's part of the job of the rails foundation but

great it is and i think you know that's part of the job of the rails foundation but

get everyone else shouting about it as well really um so hopefully i'm i'm hopeful that this is uh this is already happening and we'll get better as well as people because there was a talk wasn't there was it um irina from uh evil martians and she did a talk about uh startups on rails or something i didn't see the talk i think i've seen the slides and you know she talks about

get everyone else shouting about it as well really um so hopefully i'm i'm hopeful that this is uh this is already happening and we'll get better as well as people because there was a talk wasn't there was it um irina from uh evil martians and she did a talk about uh startups on rails or something i didn't see the talk i think i've seen the slides and you know she talks about

some really interesting companies and companies that were built in other techs that are moving back to like a Rails. We were all microservices and now we're going to come back to a Rails monolith because frankly, it was just chaos. And now this is far simpler and we didn't really need all of that complexity and distribution.

some really interesting companies and companies that were built in other techs that are moving back to like a Rails. We were all microservices and now we're going to come back to a Rails monolith because frankly, it was just chaos. And now this is far simpler and we didn't really need all of that complexity and distribution.

We just needed an app with a big database and that goes a long way usually. So hopefully we'll start to see this change.

We just needed an app with a big database and that goes a long way usually. So hopefully we'll start to see this change.

And like you say, you know, teaching JavaScript is super important. You have to kind of know JavaScript, but not necessarily at a hugely complex level. You know, like you say, little sprinkles of the JavaScript is often more than enough to accomplish what you need to do. And certainly at the boot camp level. But on the other hand, it's this chicken and egg problem.

And like you say, you know, teaching JavaScript is super important. You have to kind of know JavaScript, but not necessarily at a hugely complex level. You know, like you say, little sprinkles of the JavaScript is often more than enough to accomplish what you need to do. And certainly at the boot camp level. But on the other hand, it's this chicken and egg problem.

They're trying to get people jobs. That's what they're there for. And if all the jobs are REACT, then it's their duty to then go and teach people what's going to get them most likely to get the job so they can have their placement stats nice and high. So it's a tricky one. You need the jobs.

They're trying to get people jobs. That's what they're there for. And if all the jobs are REACT, then it's their duty to then go and teach people what's going to get them most likely to get the job so they can have their placement stats nice and high. So it's a tricky one. You need the jobs.

otherwise the boot camps might say well this movie stuff is a bit weird isn't it we're not there's no jobs in that so why would we bother teaching it and then you're on a bit of a downward spiral so um yeah tricky

otherwise the boot camps might say well this movie stuff is a bit weird isn't it we're not there's no jobs in that so why would we bother teaching it and then you're on a bit of a downward spiral so um yeah tricky

Yeah, I think so. It's pretty entrenched, I would say now, I think, pretty much.

Yeah, I think so. It's pretty entrenched, I would say now, I think, pretty much.

Here to stay.

Here to stay.