Oprah Winfrey

Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence has sold over 1.5 million copies.

And there's a reason for that because it's resonating.

It's resonating with parents.

It's resonating with people who've suffered from addiction themselves.

It's resonating with people who are concerned about where we are in our culture and where we're going.

I encourage you to read Dopamine Nation if you haven't yet because it's extremely eye-opening, especially

especially if you are a parent.

That's what I told my cousin.

You got to get dopamine nation so that you understand what's actually happening to your child.

So when they're screaming and you're screaming, nobody's going to get anywhere.

Well, you know what I said to her?

I said, it's like,

If your child was shooting heroin and you went up and took a needle from your child in the moment that they were going to shoot the heroin, do you think they'd curse you out?

Do you think there'd be a fight?

And she went, whoa.

But it's kind of like that, isn't it, Dr. Lumpke?

I think you need to repeat that sentence.

Unless you're thinking about digital media as a drug.

Right.

Yes.