Oprah Winfrey

Cheek, very cheek.

It can sit in your beautiful surroundings.

Yes, that's right.

And it goes with everything.

Excellent, excellent, excellent.

I love when you say this in the book.

If a fortune teller had taken a look at my destiny when I was growing up, she would have predicted I'd become a DJ's girlfriend.

or a footballer's side piece, or marry a gangster.

That seems to be the predetermined path for all the women in my life, women who put everyone ahead of their own dreams.

So how did you manage to pivot around the life that you saw had been prescribed for you?

How did that come about?

I was like, I'm not supposed to be here.

Yeah, that's why I appreciated your book so much because I started feeling that around four years old in rural Mississippi.

You just feel like this is not going to be my life and I don't know how.

so you're having a moment you are having a moment you're like a history-making turn as the first black female shark on abc's shark tank and your podcast aspire is just really resonating with so many thousands of people your co-creator of these powerhouse fashion brands like skims and good american do you think that you manifested this moment

through your own strategy or is something else happening?

Like I've said many times, God can dream a bigger dream.

The life force has dreamed a bigger dream for you than you did even for yourself.

All the time.

You know, we recently did Jim Collins on this show, Jim Collins, who did Good to Great.