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I go back to what you said in the very beginning, to understanding that this is a drug.

Right.

Yeah.

But in the immediate recognizing what you said at the beginning of this conversation that,

your child's device is a drug to them.

And so trying to remove the drug is like your child is in the midst of taking that drug and you're trying to take that drug away from them.

And you're going to have meltdowns and you're going to have a lot of anger and dysregulation.

That's right.

Hope you read it.

Dopamine Nation, important for all of us at this time to understand what's happening to our minds on our tech devices and the minds of our children.

Dr. Lemke, you are a gem for us in this age.

Thank you.

Thank you for helping us get through it.

And understanding ourselves.

Thank you for the information.

And thank you to Ida and Catherine and Kelly and Sophie Winkelmann.

Thank you so much.

Dr. Lemke's book, Dopamine Nation.

1.5 million have already found it to be really inspiring and helpful to them.

It's available wherever you buy your books.