Oprah Winfrey

And Catherine, I hear you're consulting with members of Gen Z for this project. And what are you hearing from them?

And Catherine, I hear you're consulting with members of Gen Z for this project. And what are you hearing from them?

I find it really interesting because if you're a kid who's 13 years old, you're addicted to your phone and you're not at a point where you even realize what you're missing out on because you're addicted to your phone. Because you've had the phone since you were 10 or since you were 11 and you've just had the phone. So you never played. You never had those experiences.

I find it really interesting because if you're a kid who's 13 years old, you're addicted to your phone and you're not at a point where you even realize what you're missing out on because you're addicted to your phone. Because you've had the phone since you were 10 or since you were 11 and you've just had the phone. So you never played. You never had those experiences.

I find it really interesting because if you're a kid who's 13 years old, you're addicted to your phone and you're not at a point where you even realize what you're missing out on because you're addicted to your phone. Because you've had the phone since you were 10 or since you were 11 and you've just had the phone. So you never played. You never had those experiences.

And in the book, Catherine, you point out that many tech executives don't let their own kids have smartphones. So why should we, the public, be paying attention to this? I think that's so interesting.

And in the book, Catherine, you point out that many tech executives don't let their own kids have smartphones. So why should we, the public, be paying attention to this? I think that's so interesting.

And in the book, Catherine, you point out that many tech executives don't let their own kids have smartphones. So why should we, the public, be paying attention to this? I think that's so interesting.

Yeah, I think it's so important because I know that so many of you parents who are listening and watching to us now, you just get into battles about it. You just have arguments about it and it is turned into this area of friction in the home. And I think on our last podcast with Jonathan, there was a young boy, Nick, who's 17 years old, uses it in the shower.

Yeah, I think it's so important because I know that so many of you parents who are listening and watching to us now, you just get into battles about it. You just have arguments about it and it is turned into this area of friction in the home. And I think on our last podcast with Jonathan, there was a young boy, Nick, who's 17 years old, uses it in the shower.

Yeah, I think it's so important because I know that so many of you parents who are listening and watching to us now, you just get into battles about it. You just have arguments about it and it is turned into this area of friction in the home. And I think on our last podcast with Jonathan, there was a young boy, Nick, who's 17 years old, uses it in the shower.

and can't walk 20 feet without being on the phone, his mother said. And yet, when you started to explain what is happening to you in the brain, that you're being sucked in, and to the young woman, Uma, who was on that past show, when you started talking about you're actually less intelligent and less able to function in the world, I think explaining it in a way that kids can see

and can't walk 20 feet without being on the phone, his mother said. And yet, when you started to explain what is happening to you in the brain, that you're being sucked in, and to the young woman, Uma, who was on that past show, when you started talking about you're actually less intelligent and less able to function in the world, I think explaining it in a way that kids can see

and can't walk 20 feet without being on the phone, his mother said. And yet, when you started to explain what is happening to you in the brain, that you're being sucked in, and to the young woman, Uma, who was on that past show, when you started talking about you're actually less intelligent and less able to function in the world, I think explaining it in a way that kids can see

For themselves, the disadvantage is certainly more helpful than just arguing about it. Would you say, Jonathan? Yeah.

For themselves, the disadvantage is certainly more helpful than just arguing about it. Would you say, Jonathan? Yeah.

For themselves, the disadvantage is certainly more helpful than just arguing about it. Would you say, Jonathan? Yeah.

And so the creators of these media platforms, they are specifically going for the dopamine hit? Is that what you're saying?

And so the creators of these media platforms, they are specifically going for the dopamine hit? Is that what you're saying?

And so the creators of these media platforms, they are specifically going for the dopamine hit? Is that what you're saying?