Oprah Winfrey

And he says the answer is really simple and something any one of us can access at any time and anywhere.

no matter your background, no matter your circumstances.

His name is Dacher Keltner, and he's a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, and the host of the award-winning podcast, The Science of Happiness.

I didn't even know there was such a podcast until researching for this.

And I just recently read his bestselling book, Awe.

the new science of everyday wonder and how it can transform your life.

Now, I read it and thought, this man is speaking my language, and that's why he's now here in the tea house.

Dacher Keltner, hello.

Thank you.

When you first started on this path, I think you found there wasn't even a real definition of awe.

So what is awe?

Let's start with letting everybody know what we're actually talking about.

Yeah, and the word awesome is thrown around as a slang.

Awe and wonder, the same thing?

Ah, so awe and wonder obviously are not the same.

Wonder is what comes after the awe moment.

Right.

Okay.

And tell us why, as you do in the book, but most people who are listening to us now probably haven't read awe.

So tell us why it matters.