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The Oprah Podcast

Discover AWE Daily with Oprah and Dacher Keltner

03 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of experiencing awe in our lives?

0.031 - 9.621 Oprah Winfrey

I love how you begin the book, your introduction. This is funny to me. You said, I have taught happiness to hundreds of thousands of people around the world. It's not obvious why I ended up doing this work.

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Chapter 2: How does awe contribute to mental health and well-being?

9.982 - 23.576 Oprah Winfrey

I've been a pretty wound up, anxious person for significant chunks of my life. And I love this, and was thrown out of my first meditation class for laughing while we chanted, I am a being of purple fire.

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25.278 - 31.415 Unknown

When I read that, I was like... What kind of meditation class was that? I'm a being of purple fire?

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32.978 - 35.402 Dacher Keltner

Yep, my best friend Memo and I got tossed out of that class in college.

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Chapter 3: What are the eight experiences that commonly trigger awe?

35.682 - 51.891 Dacher Keltner

Yeah, you know, and that's the point. You know, I struggle to meditate. I am wound up. I can't, that's just what I got, you know, in my nervous system. And awe really, as I wrote this book in a very hard time in my life, I was like, yeah, that's what grounded me in life.

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54.503 - 80.646 Oprah Winfrey

Hi, everybody, and welcome to the Oprah Podcast. I'm so pleased, honored, actually, that you chose to spend time with us here, where my intention is to offer some inspiration and maybe a bit of breathing space from the hustle of your day or from the endless barrage of news hitting your timeline. I hope you all are watching that, being careful about that, because it can just be too much.

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80.93 - 93.291 Oprah Winfrey

But I'm excited for you to hear from my guest today because he spent decades studying, searching, researching for the secret to this question. How can we live a good life?

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Chapter 4: How can we cultivate awe in our daily lives?

93.872 - 108.936 Oprah Winfrey

Yeah, that's really what we all are in search of, right? How can we live a good life? And he says the answer is really simple and something any one of us can access at any time and anywhere. no matter your background, no matter your circumstances.

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Chapter 5: What role does awe play in healing social and cultural divisions?

109.436 - 133.22 Oprah Winfrey

His name is Dacher Keltner, and he's a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, and the host of the award-winning podcast, The Science of Happiness. I didn't even know there was such a podcast until researching for this. And I just recently read his bestselling book, Awe. the new science of everyday wonder and how it can transform your life.

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Chapter 6: How can awe be integrated into practices for children?

133.701 - 141.028 Oprah Winfrey

Now, I read it and thought, this man is speaking my language, and that's why he's now here in the tea house. Dacher Keltner, hello.

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Chapter 7: What is the connection between psychedelics and the experience of awe?

141.268 - 143.95 Dacher Keltner

Hello, Oprah. It's nice to be with you. Nice to be here. And an honor.

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144.371 - 151.998 Oprah Winfrey

Thank you. When you first started on this path, I think you found there wasn't even a real definition of awe.

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Chapter 8: How can we develop a personal practice of awe?

152.078 - 157.123 Oprah Winfrey

So what is awe? Let's start with letting everybody know what we're actually talking about.

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157.103 - 163.236 Dacher Keltner

Yeah, that's actually a tough question, right? People have been trying to define the sense of the mystical and the sublime.

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163.396 - 166.803 Oprah Winfrey

Yeah, and the word awesome is thrown around as a slang.

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166.824 - 188.982 Dacher Keltner

A little too much these days. Yes, yes. Yeah, so awe is an emotion you feel when you encounter vast things most typically, giant redwoods, right, a vast piece of music, somebody who really inspires you with the size of their character. And then it's mysterious to you. You don't quite understand it immediately, and it provokes you to wonder.

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189.442 - 193.168 Dacher Keltner

So, very simply, awe is when we encounter vast mysteries.

193.388 - 194.67 Oprah Winfrey

Awe and wonder, the same thing?

194.65 - 219.291 Dacher Keltner

No, philosophers pull awe and wonder apart. Awe is an emotion you feel. I see an incredible tree or a sunset. And then wonder is the cognitive state after awe by which I try to make sense of things, right? Right. One of my favorite examples is Newton and Descartes were these famous scientists and philosophers and they were awestruck by rainbows. How do rainbows exist?

219.271 - 228.023 Dacher Keltner

And then in a state of wonder, they figured it out. They did math and color theory and figured out how when light bends through water, it produces a rainbow.

229.324 - 246.848 Oprah Winfrey

Ah, so awe and wonder obviously are not the same. Wonder is what comes after the awe moment. Right. Okay. And tell us why, as you do in the book, but most people who are listening to us now probably haven't read awe. So tell us why it matters.

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