Oprah Winfrey

I was like, I literally afterwards wrote both of them letters saying to see somebody vibrating at their highest level possible.

You just know that it doesn't get any higher than that.

That's the collective effervescence you talked about.

Well, in awe, one of the things, the new science of everyday wonder and how it can transform your life, one of the things you did was you asked over 2,000 people from all over the world, different faiths, different backgrounds, different life situations, different educations, and you asked them, what is an experience of awe that you've had when you encountered a vast mystery that transcends your world?

I'm asking that of you all now.

For you, it was...

I mean, what most people wouldn't consider an awesome moment, but for you, it was the death of your younger brother.

Yeah.

Can you tell us that story?

Yeah.

And you said that after your brother's death, that you lost your ability for a while to experience awe.

Yeah.

Why, from the grief?

Yeah, I mean, grief.

Did you shut down?

So how did you get it back?

And,

So I like the idea of people understanding that there is awe in the everyday.

Yeah.

So are you one of those people who, as a scientist, you've written the book and then do you actually practice it?