Oprah Winfrey

No, it set up a lot of guilt, Tina, because the nun said to you, you're a mean little girl. You don't want to give your dress to her. So, I mean, I think for the nuns to set you up to lead you to believe that you're going to be the little girl that's going to be a part of that ceremony, you come with the dress and they say now you have to give the dress to the other person. Right.

I mean, that is devastating.

I mean, that is devastating.

I mean, that is devastating.

Especially when you're a little girl.

Especially when you're a little girl.

Especially when you're a little girl.

Yeah. But again, I can see where that moment of the nun saying, you're mean and you're so selfish would also instill in you this whole, I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy, I don't belong, which is the first thing that she was trying to tell you. You know what I thought when I was reading? I said, they knew you were cute. They knew that your mother was a major contributor to the school.

Yeah. But again, I can see where that moment of the nun saying, you're mean and you're so selfish would also instill in you this whole, I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy, I don't belong, which is the first thing that she was trying to tell you. You know what I thought when I was reading? I said, they knew you were cute. They knew that your mother was a major contributor to the school.

Yeah. But again, I can see where that moment of the nun saying, you're mean and you're so selfish would also instill in you this whole, I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy, I don't belong, which is the first thing that she was trying to tell you. You know what I thought when I was reading? I said, they knew you were cute. They knew that your mother was a major contributor to the school.

And as you say in matriarch, that your parents were like your whole family was like indentured servants to that school. Everybody's working and cleaning the yard and your father's driving for them and your mother's making every single thing in the church for them. So I think that they were jealous of you. Don't you think that?

And as you say in matriarch, that your parents were like your whole family was like indentured servants to that school. Everybody's working and cleaning the yard and your father's driving for them and your mother's making every single thing in the church for them. So I think that they were jealous of you. Don't you think that?

And as you say in matriarch, that your parents were like your whole family was like indentured servants to that school. Everybody's working and cleaning the yard and your father's driving for them and your mother's making every single thing in the church for them. So I think that they were jealous of you. Don't you think that?

Let's go to the audience. Like we said, you and I are almost exactly the same age, and from the time... when children were seen and not heard, but you made sure that you were heard. That's how you got your nickname, Badass Teenie B. And you write that God had given my mother the most cautious, you said, most cautious woman I would ever know, a girl without fear. So where's Tiffany?

Let's go to the audience. Like we said, you and I are almost exactly the same age, and from the time... when children were seen and not heard, but you made sure that you were heard. That's how you got your nickname, Badass Teenie B. And you write that God had given my mother the most cautious, you said, most cautious woman I would ever know, a girl without fear. So where's Tiffany?

Let's go to the audience. Like we said, you and I are almost exactly the same age, and from the time... when children were seen and not heard, but you made sure that you were heard. That's how you got your nickname, Badass Teenie B. And you write that God had given my mother the most cautious, you said, most cautious woman I would ever know, a girl without fear. So where's Tiffany?

Imagine you were five and a nun, a nun, all nun-like, says to you, I'm going to break the evil spirit in you. And you're five.

Imagine you were five and a nun, a nun, all nun-like, says to you, I'm going to break the evil spirit in you. And you're five.

Imagine you were five and a nun, a nun, all nun-like, says to you, I'm going to break the evil spirit in you. And you're five.

So your mother would tell you family stories under a pecan tree. which you say nourished your soul. And I love that whole section of the book so much. You write, a part of that was my mother making sure that I knew what an honor it was to be Black. You've been known to wear T-shirts that reads 100% Black, and you once declared, I'm the Blackest woman you'll ever meet.